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reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 06:08 PM by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by Zaphod58

Or do you have evidence that the steel facade that we were talking about withstood them? Or are you just twisting things we were talking about to make it look like I'm saying something I'm not?


www.firehouse.com...
The report confirmed the emerging consensus that the twin towers could have withstood the impact of the hijacked airliners but eventually succumbed to the inferno that weakened the buildings' steel framework. Heat from the fire was comparable to the energy produced by a large commercial power-generating plant, the report said.


www.nist.gov...
The robustness of the perimeter frame-tube system and the large dimensional size of the WTC towers helped the buildings withstand the aircraft impact.

The composite floor system with open-web bar joist elements, framed to provide two-way flat plate action, enabled the floors to redistribute loads without collapse from places of aircraft impact damage to other locations, avoiding larger scale collapse upon impact.

The hat truss resisted the significant weakening of the core, due to aircraft impact damage and subsequent thermal effects, by redistributing loads from the damaged core columns to adjacent intact columns and, ultimately, by redistributing loads to the perimeter walls from the thermally weakened core columns that lost their ability to support the buildings’ weight.

As a result of the above factors, the buildings would likely not have collapsed under the combined effects of aircraft impact and the subsequent jet-fuel ignited multi-floor fires, if the fireproofing had not been dislodged or had been only minimally dislodged by aircraft impact. The existing condition of the fireproofing prior to aircraft impact and the fireproofing thickness on the WTC floor system did not play a significant role in initiating collapse on Sept. 11, 2001.


www.tms.org...
The early news reports noted how well the towers withstood the initial impact of the aircraft; however, when one recognizes that the buildings had more than 1,000 times the mass of the aircraft and had been designed to resist steady wind loads of 30 times the weight of the aircraft, this ability to withstand the initial impact is hardly surprising. Furthermore, since there was no significant wind on September 11, the outer perimeter columns were only stressed before the impact to around 1/3 of their 200 MPa design allowable.


The only people i see twisting things are the poeple who believe the official story without any evidence to support it.



[edit on 6-6-2007 by ULTIMA1]


reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 06:36 PM by ULTIMA1
Originally posted by Zaphod58
And is it so hard for you to understand that we were talking about the FACADE of the building and not the entire building? What part of that is so hard to understand?


911research.wtc7.net...
WTC 1 probably experienced some additional loading and damage due to the collapse of the adjacent WTC 2. The extent of such damage is not known but likely included broken window and facade elements along the south face. This additional damage was not sufficient to cause collapse. The first event of sufficient severity to cause collapse was the fires that followed the aircraft impact.



reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 07:09 PM by showmeproof
a similar test conducted to test strength of a reinforced wall.

Similar speeds as WTC 'crashes', 500 MPH. I apologize that I do not have the original source, but a link to another site instead. I will look further for the original.


www.compfused.com...


.....found direct youtube link



[edit on 6-6-2007 by showmeproof]

Now, with a reinforced wall totally destroying the plane. One must hypothesize that a standard steel wall would cause physical damage to some aspect of the plane prior to entry: nosepieces, tail sections, wings are all designed to break off as a whole unit upon the slightest stress. Where are any of these pieces?

[edit on 6-6-2007 by showmeproof]
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