Mass grave believed to contain Jews

Mmmm......Nasty!



Full Fox News Article Here

Full BBC News Article Here

Well there you go, I certainly wouldn't want to work as a gas pipeline fitter and discover one body, let alone a mass grave!

The names of 93 Jews has been established and studies at the site may reveal more. A memorial is to be planned later in the year.

All together some 1.5 million Ukranian Jews are supposed to have been killed in the Nazi occupation.

WE MUSTN'T LET THIS HAPPEN AGAIN ON ANY SCALE, ANYWHERE.

May they rest in peace.

[edit on 5/6/2007 by nerbot]

I can't wait for the holocaust deniers to explain away this one.

I think that it is wrong for the world to focus too much attention on the Jews as victims of the Nazis, since the Nazis managed to target so many, but to deny the attempted extermination of Jews is flying in the face of too much evidence.

They won't be able to, Grady, but they'll sure as hell try...

ten million died, "only" six million were Jews, odds are these were Jews. Yet another reminder, if any is needed, of mans unhumanity towards man.

Evidence please. I want to see any evidence that they were Jews. The word of a Jew doesn't count in this case.

I just read at YNet... 'We must figure out their names'... well, if you need to figure out something, it's already a hoax. You should learn their names, not figure out, you moron. You Jews always failing on these little, itsy-bitsy details.

If you deny the holocaust, then you might as well deny the existence of the Nazis. What evidence is there that there ever was a time before today? The "artifacts of the past" were planted by conspiracists.

Lets see several articles mention the fact that the Nazi's had ghettos established nearby in the region. It doesn't beggar the imagination to think that possibly the dead were/are Jews. Are they? Won't know for a while yet, but the odds are good.

Grady. I'm not denying the holocaust (I'm not in that mood now.), but I'm pretty bored of this whining Holo-Business. I want to see evidences that these victims were Jews. How did you identify them? Jews have specific DNA, a neon light blinked over them and advertised, "We were Jews, Nazis killed us", or what? What I can see here, is only speculation. Christians died in that era, thousands too, killed by the Soviet Union between 1939-1989. So, I want to see some evidence for this "They were Jews" stuff. They were people in my eyes. Someones, whose had lifes and families, dreams and plans. But you're using the dead of these poor people for your stupid Holo-Advertisment propaganda, because everyone is already starting to question it, because that story has some glitches, like this one and people realizing this day by day. What I don't like in Jews, that your kind always want to gain some advantage, some sort of profit from the events, from the death of the people. And it's completely disgusting.

Your sick of it? Then move along.

(bold emphasis mine)

You are either going to change your tone or you will no longer participate in discussions on ATS.

WE (ATS) don't tolerate the kind of people who talk the way you seem to.

Is that clear?

Seagull. Not I'm the one who is sick of it. All the Europeans as well. Where were you lived in the last one year? We're sick that we need to watch Holoshows on Christian celebrations, Christmas, we need to watch Holoshows on Easter day and other days. We're bored of it and sick of it. The Europeans have enough of this whining. Read the news. Anti-Semitism is on the rise in Europe. Why? Because Europeans are bored of this whining, of this holo-business.

Respect your dead ones and not use their suffering to get some commercial gain. Christians and Muslims are bored of this "We suffered 60 years ago, give us money.". Show some respect for the dead ones. Please. We're respecting our dead ones and not advertising it day by day. And voila. There are not so much Anti-Christian and Anti-Muslim on the globe.

Grady they've already started. How can people be so blinded by their hate that they can "find" reasons to deny that which has been proven. Of course, since numbers change that gives them cause to crow that the entire thing is a fabrication caused by the evil Jews who obviously caused the Holocaust so they could control the world. Yeah right.

Dark Crystalline I truly pity you. How sad to be so full of hate and to have so little compassion. I'll pray that some day your heart may be opened.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by gallopinghordes]

Edit: Fixed BB code.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by intrepid]

Okay, Djarum. Then please give me similar words for "Kind". Kind, type... right now other words not really flashing in for this. Help me to avoid these things. Give me a list what sort of word combinations are approved in this case if "Kind" is out.

gallopinghordes. You don't have to feel any pity for me. My heart is pretty open, but I've seen many damned things in the last year which is connecting to Zionism. Believe me. I'm a kind man. I never said anything without reasons. But I don't like delusions, lies, warmongering, demon worshiping and so on and so on. My country have lost many things thanks to these sort of people (Sorry Djarum. I cannot phrase this sentence on a different way. Please forgive me. And you still not gave me a list for this. ).

In my religion, we're categorizing people into three different sides, by their acts (Don't search for this religion. You're not going to find it.). And in this case, this religion and this race is not on the good side. Why? Just simply take a look around what are they doing on the planet. Even the Angels have abandoned them. Whoever joined them, converted to one of them, became chaotic, greedy and evil. I'm telling you from experience and not from hate. Whatever it seems to be, believe me, hate is far away from me or from my religion.

Even if the Holocaust is existed or not (Everyone may decide it), the main problem is that the people of the Jewish community wanted to fight against the Nazis, the haunted against the hunter, but in the meantime, in the last sixty years they became the hunter and others became the haunted. You switched side in the last sixty years without your own knowledge. You became to that what against you have fought. That's the sad fact.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by Dark Crystalline]

Nope DC I still have to feel pity for you. Your hate has blinded you til you can't see the forest for the trees. Not to worry I don't really want to know what your religion is that's your business and not my concern. As far as you being a kind man well...................

By the time the "investigation" is over they will all be Jews (Zionists) even if they are Nazi soldiers........after all the Zionist have to find 6 million dead Jews from somewher.

Up till now they can account for only 178,000 and they have a few more millions to go.

gallopinghordes. Well, as I said previously keep your pity. The fact is only those ones can judge you, who can see you. Call it whatever you want. It's not hate. It's the truth. You turned to those ones, that against you have ever fought. You're looking into a broken mirror and you're seeing only your broken image. Only those ones can tell the real picture about you, whose are watching you. And it's not hate. It's observation. And that's my duty.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by Dark Crystalline]

Well, it's good that they found this grave site and a proper memorial can be constructed for all these people.

I wonder how many more will be unearthed as the years go by as there's still a lot of bodies to be accounted for.

Thanks for posting this Nerbot

Mass grave found. How unfortunate. Why are we arguing?

One side hates what Israel stands for and all the deceptive and subversive deception they have dabbled in to get where they are today. I am leaving out many factual examples so not to derail the thread anymore.

People see things like the lavon affairand point their fingers at the Zionist's enabling of the threachery to some extent. Then they get mad because they won't let the world forget about their history, which has obviously helped propel them in their solidified situation in the middle east. People know of the UN Resolution (242 I think) to pull back to pre 67' war borders, and how they refuse to obey, with the US's vetoing power against any condemnation. They can see that the real terrorism in the world is not organic. But it is created by other greedy ideologies stepping out of their culture to control anothers culture. Any resistence comes with oppression, and too much oppression leads to war, and decades of war have left families ripped apart and souls filled with realities that are only meant for hell. Yet everyone forgets about the good old greedy people that started it all. The ones who went in with false pretences and lost the respect of their guppies. We are now left with a spin for every reality we have got ourselves into.

Let's get Saddam out of Iraq, he is crazy killer. He killed 200,000 kurds with chemicals weapons. REALITY: USA gave the chemical weapons to Iraq only months earlier to use on the Iranians.

We hear spin everyday. People are becoming more cognicient of that subversion. So when we see the oppressions of Israel through the midst of their propaganda, we cannot sit and let those same oppressors seek sympathy continuously for their unfortunate pasts. Past ridicule and genocide does not give you a "get out of jail free card."

The people that are against those that are against Israel might not have the ability to accept the whole story, and maybe they do but they just don't care. Either way, there are many reasons why people won't see eye to eye on Israel and the hallocoust. I personally believe the Hallocoust happened, and I don't think it was just the Jews that Hitler wanted to rid the world of. You remember the Arayan race right? It wasn't just Jews that didn't fit that bill.

US murderes millions of Indians and yet we are not looked at like Hitler, why? Because governments are able to control the rhetoric and propaganda that circulates.

“The falsification of history has done more to impede human development than any one thing known to mankind.” Jean-Jacques Rousseau

AAC

I think this is what's called "heated discussion"!



People who have Anti-semitic, racist or inhumane feelings towards this news should read the articles and keep any bad thoughts to themselves.



Well said,.....but read the articles first before "moving along".

My reasons for posting this weren't to START anything. It was to inform and educate. If you want evidence, do some research, find more articles and news reports. Post them here for all to see.

It is a sad day when anyone is found in an unmarked grave. FULLSTOP.

Please, let's not fuel the same fires that lead to this event all those years ago. Let's use our energy to stop these things happening in the CIVILIZED world of today, that we should ALL be trying to make a little better.

Peace.

p.s. MODS: please keep good tabs on posts here. thanks.

OK! You are without question one of the most disturbing TROLLS I have ever seen on ATS. I can not fathom how you have not been tossed off this board.

You do not represent Christians in any way shape or form. Your words are identical to any member of the Nazi's, KKK or the Aryan Nation. Neither them or you are Christian by any stretch of the imagination. Does not matter if you are a member or not; You are one of them. If you are Muslim there must be at least one here to ditto what I'm saying.

Everyone here should click on this persons name and then read all of their posts. I did and got quite an education.

Mods - I now deserve a warning. I apologize but I'm posting this anyway.