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Dr Carol Rosin, Missle Defense System, Bush, Rogue Nations

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posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:45 AM
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CNN reports today that Bush's response to Russia's stating they are directing nuclear arms toward Germany because of US plans to go forward with missle defense systems.


(CNN) -- U.S. President George W. Bush said Tuesday that Russia was not his country's enemy and had nothing to fear from U.S. plans for a Europe-based missile defense program.


The US is wanting to build missile defense bases near Russia and Russia is not wanting to cooperate.

This recalls Dr. Carol Rosin's testimony at the 2001 Disclosure Event held at the National Press Club in 2001. Dr. Carol Rosin was the late space wiz Werner Von Braun's personal assistant.

At the event, Dr. Rosin was warning that Dr. Von Braun knew first hand of factions within the government that were planning since the 1970s to initiate these missle defense systems.

Dr Rosin's Disclosure Event Testimony, NPC 2001

She states in this testimony that the first reason given would be Russia, the next reason given would be rogue nations. The last reason and the last card would be a hoaxed ET threat, the purpose would be to engage the ETs in a interplanetary war.

Her testimony was in 2001. The Russian threat is over, and she stated the next threat would be 'rogue nations'. President Bush is demonstrating the realization of this plan.




posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:17 AM
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when I heard about this, the first thing that came to my mind was 'Military Idustrial Complex strikes again!'

It might be for national security reasons, but it certainly sounds like very aggresive action, particulary while we are in the midst of a war already and Americans are already earning a bad reputation for our aggressiveness. This shield sounds like military contractors wet dream.

I hate to believe we are in a day and age when we need a missle shield around europe. Scarry stuff.

I do believe if we continue on this track, down the road it will result in the end of human civilization. whether that's hundreds or thousdands of years in the future, I don't know. As cliche and hippy skippy as it sounds, we need to change our competative view of the world, nation against nation and think of everyone as fellow humans, and I think disclosure could help that process.

Good thing Bush won't be office much longer!



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:18 AM
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I wonder how many realizes we had early warnings about all this, and we are so caught up in our day to day grind, we are getting sucked in this. Pieces of the puzzle are getting into place, we will have to pay the bill.

I want to say, we won't build that missile shield against off-planet cultures. I sure hope we don't, because it would be disastrous.

How arrogant can we be thinking we would hold a micro-second against ET forces, and not that their intention is to do us harm, or we would have been wiped long ago, but rather to show that they want us to grow up a peaceful people and join them in the intergalactic society.

Thank you for bringing this up c3hamby.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:34 AM
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It is the job of the military to protect its charges by assuming the worst case scenario and planning to counter it.

Personally, I've never spoken with an alien, or seen a convincing interview, therefore I don't have anything other than reported actions to go on.

Continued buzzing of defense installations, alleged abductions, and an expressed desire for secrecy do NOT equal warm, fuzzy aliens.... So the idea of mounting a defense that protects against a terrestrial threat, that may also shield against an ET threat, is a two for one deal...

I don't consider the assumption arrogant....but the idea that they are godlike and that we are nothing, is the complete other side of the coin... We've gone from riding horses to putting a man on the moon in less than a century, so don't count us clever little monkeys out yet....



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:54 AM
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Thanks for the posts gentlemen and gentlewomen.

Please feel free to post this on your blogs and what not to get it out if you feel so moved.

This needs to be distributed. Even if 'non tin-hats' don't believe, perhaps they will become convinced eventually when they see events unfolding as Dr Rosin predicted.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:01 AM
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You know pretty darn well, with the masses of reports that shows they are not hostile, but just defending themselves in these cases, by stopping missiles from functioning and what have you.

It's us that is the problem, and our attitude toward all living beings. And don't give credits to our scientists for the discovery. I'm sure there is a whole lot of reverse-engineering that came to action in our discovery. I'm talking about reverse-engineering from crashed crafts.

I can quote Ben Rich, director for Lockheed Skunkworks, here too: "We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.... Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do."

So once more, I disagree with you on this.

We screwed up our planet, and the next step, we going to screw up other planets? I DON'T THINK SO.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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The sad part about all of this is, nobody will or can do anything about this. Everybody's to busy working from paycheck to paycheck. Nobody has the time to stand up and stop anything anymore. Scientist are to busy being scientist, Doctor's are busy being doctor's. politicians are to busy being politicians and are more worried about staying in power. Power, now that's an interesting word
It's all about power
Even all those witnesses at the disclosure event can't do anything about it. If they could then they should of already of done it. The government is way to powerful now to let us little people stop them. I know it hurts me to say that but it's true. What can we do ? I work, my spouse works nights, we're all on ATS talking about this but that's all we're doing, is talking. ( or typing ) Everybody is talking but nobody's listening to us. I want disclosure as bad as the rest of you, but alot of you are right about humans being to agressive and wanting power, not peace. We fight and kill to get what we want, instead of loving one another and compromising.

All we can do now is watch the dice roll and shift will happen.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by c3hamby
She states in this testimony that the first reason given would be Russia, the next reason given would be rogue nations. The last reason and the last card would be a hoaxed ET threat, the purpose would be to engage the ETs in a interplanetary war.


What would be the purpose of this? Why use conventional missiles when you have made it clear that we are already shooting down et-piloted flying saucers with paticle beam weapons?

And here's a bit more info on Dr Rosin



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:35 PM
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The Ben Rich quote... can that be directly attributed and confirmed? Or is this just another "Friends of Greer" buzz-thread? Now where did THAT quote really come from? Maybe a book? By a demonstrable liar? Hmmm? Eh? Huh? An individual who LIED AT THE 2001 "Dislosure" event at the National Press Club who told his lie to the national Media and you and I and has recorded himself as his own promotional video! The lie preserved for eternity by the Net... the Net never forgets.

This thread has little to do with it's "nominal" and stated title and diverts the ATS readership into buying a manufactured and pre-meditated and "honest" discussion that Greer-ians will attempt to advance "little Stevie goin' to jail's" agenda of profit, here on ATS. Rosin is a co-conspirator - I'm working on her folio too... just for fun.

She talks about her experiences with the MIC - talks, talks, talks, talks - a real chatty-Cathy and name-dropper like most Cult-Greerians. How much does she charge to speak? Books? DVD's? She's got her head so far up Stevie's probe-zone her hair sometimes looks brown. Tick, tick, tick.

They had a bad day yesterday, here at ATS. I like that.

Vic

[edit on 5-6-2007 by V Kaminski]



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by torsion

Originally posted by c3hamby
She states in this testimony that the first reason given would be Russia, the next reason given would be rogue nations. The last reason and the last card would be a hoaxed ET threat, the purpose would be to engage the ETs in a interplanetary war.


What would be the purpose of this? Why use conventional missiles when you have made it clear that we are already shooting down et-piloted flying saucers with paticle beam weapons?

And here's a bit more info on Dr Rosin


Well, I have to go back to 'Hidden' to talk about the long range plan.

The ultimate goal of engaging a false flag ET war?

A manufactured worldwide terrorism event that will make 9/11 pale in comparison.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:58 PM
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Missiles and Europe and Bush and rogue nations. Who is this long-term plan about? Putin? Rosen? Or someone who's last name begins with the letter G who's brought to us by the number zero?

Yup. real bad deal in Europe. I think we are about to be "informed" how Greer can stop all this and right all wrongs... got proof: Fed-Ex?. Carol Rosin - gag me with a spoon. "MX-Missile-Mamma". This ought to be enjoyable... She's Sooooo quintessentially MIC. Poster wench for peace who happens to have helped create missile-WMD-systems. Disinfo-whore hooked up with a liar and charlatan. Look it up.

Vic

[edit on 5-6-2007 by V Kaminski]



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by c3hamby
Well, I have to go back to 'Hidden' to talk about the long range plan.

The ultimate goal of engaging a false flag ET war?

A manufactured worldwide terrorism event that will make 9/11 pale in comparison.


But I don't understand why on the one hand you are saying it is a plan for the future and on the other (ie in other posts) you are saying that we are already shooting down flying saucers. Not only that but we are shooting them down with particle beam weapons not conventional missiles!

So why set up a phalanx of missiles in Europe when you say we have 'particle beam weapons' that are currently in use and shooting down ets right now?



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 01:37 PM
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What the heck is wrong with this administration? First Afghanistan,
then Iraq, and now it's dead set on building a missle defense shield.
Why so much focus on War and Violence related big money projects?
Most people just want to work, take some vacations and build a better
world for future generations. And everyone used to call Ronald Reagan
a "War Monger" when he was running for office. I don't think the USA
engaged in a single major conflict during his two terms did we? geeesh.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by torsion

Originally posted by c3hamby
Well, I have to go back to 'Hidden' to talk about the long range plan.

The ultimate goal of engaging a false flag ET war?

A manufactured worldwide terrorism event that will make 9/11 pale in comparison.


But I don't understand why on the one hand you are saying it is a plan for the future and on the other (ie in other posts) you are saying that we are already shooting down flying saucers. Not only that but we are shooting them down with particle beam weapons not conventional missiles!

So why set up a phalanx of missiles in Europe when you say we have 'particle beam weapons' that are currently in use and shooting down ets right now?


This is just a cover, probably for putting in those particle beam weapons worldwide or something more dangerous than what they are telling us.

Plus, a worldwide missle defense system will reign more destruction on the Earth than a simple stationary weapon.

This is there goal, according to Dr Rosin.

The game plan is already in play.

I would love to be like you and not believe this. I thank you Torsion for your skepticism. Please show me something convincing that what I'm saying is bunk.

Some people say that we hang onto Dr Greer's work for hope. This is not hope. This is a warning.

The problem is that we already know that the powers that be would do this. It's not beyond them.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by c3hamby]

[edit on 5-6-2007 by c3hamby]



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 02:17 PM
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the czech republic where these missiles are supposed to go are already protesting them being put it but also please take into consideration the fact that north korea has missiles that can hit our west coast and tested a nuclear weapon last year now the goverment could have been lying about that but what if theyre not? if we go into another arms race with russia over this i think thatd atleast be better then north korea hitting us with a missile or if iran develops weapon....or if relations go south with pakistan



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Solarskye
The sad part about all of this is, nobody will or can do anything about this. Everybody's to busy working from paycheck to paycheck. Nobody has the time to stand up and stop anything anymore. Scientist are to busy being scientist, Doctor's are busy being doctor's. politicians are to busy being politicians and are more worried about staying in power. Power, now that's an interesting word
It's all about power
Even all those witnesses at the disclosure event can't do anything about it. If they could then they should of already of done it. The government is way to powerful now to let us little people stop them. I know it hurts me to say that but it's true. What can we do ? I work, my spouse works nights, we're all on ATS talking about this but that's all we're doing, is talking. ( or typing ) Everybody is talking but nobody's listening to us. I want disclosure as bad as the rest of you, but alot of you are right about humans being to agressive and wanting power, not peace. We fight and kill to get what we want, instead of loving one another and compromising.

All we can do now is watch the dice roll and shift will happen.


So well put that it makes me wish we still had WATS nominations to award for great posts like this.

It's true though, we're all in a tangle and the government knows it. They are busy being the government just like we're all busy being employees, parents, friends, etc. and that's why they're always going to win. They have the intelligence, the personnel, and the power to do "whatever is best for the country" which is BS in English for "whatever those who specialize in gaining power and wealth want".

Like so many others on here, I'm too wrapped up in my life to budget any kind of time for fighting these kind of fights. I guess over time the majority of our populace has just become so complacent to the point where were always "doing things" because there is so much to do and see, that interest in fighting for the people has waned considerably as time marched on. It's the distractions that are all around us that lets are brains wander from the big picture to smaller, more interesting things.

It makes you wonder, is having a thing like the Internet a blessing or a curse for those of us with inquisitive/open minds? Yes we have the power to collaborate, research, and keep up on current events better then ever before, but at the same time we're caught in the web of our own life to do anything constructive about it. That's where we'll always fail, the government can lie, steal, and omit certain truths but so long as they cover the right tracks we can't do anything but speculate and formulate theories that only sound feasible if you pay attention to the right details and underlying issues, meaning you can't just go up to your neighbor and expect to have a conversation about what the government is hiding because chances are he's someone who doesn't pay attention to what you do.

It's a shame they can get away with so much, but it's been like this since the beginning of modern society, all the way back to Mesopotamia. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and with each passing generation the longer those in power can stay there the more those people can consolidate their power from within and build upon their dominance. Of course this differs from society to society, but the human nature remains the same and more people will fall to the power of temptation and power then those who will stand up for the people and do what's morally right.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 03:11 PM
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I hate being that one guy who disagrees with everyone, but I don't think that a missile defense system is a bad thing. I would rather have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. I know though, the government is a bunch of liars and make up stories to get thier agenda fulfilled, but what if world wide terrorism really is going on? (and it is) What if there really are crazies out there actively pursuing America's demise? (and there are)
Do I believe every little thing I am told, no of course not. However I cannot be so closeminded to think that everything that happens is just some plot to make me sway one way or another on political issues.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 03:27 PM
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How arrogant can we be thinking we would hold a micro-second against ET forces, and not that their intention is to do us harm, or we would have been wiped long ago, but rather to show that they want us to grow up a peaceful people and join them in the intergalactic society.

Thank you for bringing this up c3hamby.

What von Braun seemed to be unaware of is the fact that

all or the vast bulk of the so called ET's . . . and perhaps some authentic ET's

are in thorough going cahoots with the NWO puppet masters toward coercing the world into a global government headed by satan.

Anyone who thinks that's wonderful . . . has not a clue about the realities of life and this time/space dimension.

It may be the case that they will go with the single plan of

'Long live our space brothers who will save us from ourselves.'

or

good cop/bad cop . . . .

some 'Et's' will take the role of saving us from the 'evil ET's.'

The goal will be the same for all sides--establishment of an evil tyrannical world government.

The goal of said government is as much destruction and death as possible . . . as the near last sort of dying gasp satan has of throwing sand in God's eyes for kicking him out of Heaven. . . . destroy as many of God's favorite critters with as much suffering as possible--and especially as many Israeli's as possible.

Thankfully, God will have the last and only laugh in coming festivities.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Aaron_Justin
I hate being that one guy who disagrees with everyone, but I don't think that a missile defense system is a bad thing. I would rather have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. I know though, the government is a bunch of liars and make up stories to get thier agenda fulfilled, but what if world wide terrorism really is going on? (and it is) What if there really are crazies out there actively pursuing America's demise? (and there are)
Do I believe every little thing I am told, no of course not. However I cannot be so closeminded to think that everything that happens is just some plot to make me sway one way or another on political issues.


Well, you rather starve half the american people, so these big shots can pocket your tax money? Geez...

You understand that poor americans are sent to war in Iraq, because if they want to feed themselves, they have to? They are been cornered into doing this, so some elites can pocket loads of tax money selling arms...

...
If you don't see that as been wrong, .... you leave me... speechless.



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by V Kaminski

She talks about her experiences with the MIC - talks, talks, talks, talks - a real chatty-Cathy and name-dropper like most Cult-Greerians. How much does she charge to speak? Books? DVD's?

[edit on 5-6-2007 by V Kaminski]


No books, no dvds, don't think she's on the speech circuit.

She is the President of Peace in Space, works with Alfred L Webre on that one.

Anything you want to read is available on her website.

www.peaceinspace.com...






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