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# I need some help with a strange cryptic message.Please!

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posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 07:57 PM
What if this guy is a time-traveler and trying to get "home" by building a crude device in our time...the stresses of time travel might have made him a little "nutty" and he hands out these cards to like-minded people that he thinks deserve a "challange"...

That would be a sweet fictional story to read...a stranded time traveler...

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 08:10 PM
Na I think he is from our time - heck even Macgyver couldn't get a time machine working with some clips and a DC jack......or could he? He DID disarm a nuke with a tennis racket a three pens...

As for like minded, well I believe in time viewing, not time travel. But its till not practical as we need to attain faster than light travel to turn back and see the light we overtook.

Anyway back on topic.

Im assuming that the light globe is just an icon representing 'an idea' and then it goes into the formula.

Epsilon Squared therefore u = set of alpha is to alpha plus-minus = five plus.

If NOT RAN then PTO for 5 plus into the cube or 5+ cubed.

If YES RAN then......WHAT?

Im just typing it out to try and make sense of how we actually READ this thing. Flow chart still seems wrong. And it seems that there are too many variables undeclared. We need constants!!lol

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 08:14 PM
Just had a thought; if the answer is a number then it better not be '42' as we have a HItchhikers guide to the galaxy nutter among us! or 47 for you trekkies.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:23 PM
I could be a little too simplistic BUT.. this is why I gather from my mathematical background.

Suppose you are given a set of numbers that exist in a box. Call this box E.

If this is true, then for every number a, in box E would be equal to 5(post script +).

Translation:
I think the box [think of the square as a box viewed from above] with the epsilon gives the domain of the function. The set notation gives the range.

Secondly:
Suppose you have a box sitting on a table. How many sides of the box would always be outwardly visible, no matter what side you have it placed on? 5.

Happy hunting.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:25 PM
ok, i love threads like this. but, ive got a few questions.

1. what city / state is the store in?
2. is it a chain store, or family style store?
3. what kind of clothes was he wearing?
4. when spoke to you, was he looking straight at you, or down and away, or looking around?
5. did he pay cash or credit?

just questiosn about what type of guy he was.
there is always the possibility he was just nut job.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:28 PM
Just a thought but isnt it possible that the "y" shaped symbol is a misshapen symbol for "mu". Just another thought but RAN can stand for Radio Access Network en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 6/5/2007 by Karl7772000]

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:37 PM
If you want the opinion of an ignoramus(me) I think he is trying to say light can travel in 5 dimensions, not just 3 or even 4. Maybe the MiB's are letting him holiday here for a while and he's really an alien in a rubber human suit!

[edit on 5-6-2007 by orthisguyoverhere]

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 09:37 PM
Just an update, I'm still waiting to hear from Dr. Dixit in India. Not that I think he has anything to do with this, but hey, maybe he will recognize the formula or whatever it is.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:07 PM
Wow, thats a great theory, makes all kinds of sense.

I think its safe to say that the text has been sufficiently translated/understood to get the gist of the message. I think its akin to "PM (his name perhaps) says this to you and others" and then proceeds to the formula.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:09 PM
maybe the flow chart leads the way to a clue if the answer you got is not RAN

If RAN is no -- PTO for a hint to help with the equation
If RAN is yes -- well you got it, and you can PTO if you like.

just a thought

Also... on the other cards are the Y, N check boxes marked the same with two checks or two X's. I know you stated that they were marked different on each one, but I am wondering if there is more meaning to them being marked that way.
do any of them have a check in Y, and a check in N on the same card? or the opposite, does one have the boxes both with an X ??

[edit on 5-6-2007 by 1freelectron]

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:13 PM

Originally posted by JSR
ok, i love threads like this. but, ive got a few questions.

1. what city / state is the store in?
2. is it a chain store, or family style store?
3. what kind of clothes was he wearing?
4. when spoke to you, was he looking straight at you, or down and away, or looking around?
5. did he pay cash or credit?

just questiosn about what type of guy he was.
there is always the possibility he was just nut job.

Just noticed these questions while having lunch:

1 - a small (and i mean SMALL) coastal town in central Queensland, Australia
2 - Chain buying group, independently owned and operated business
3 - black skivvie and dark jeans with a black backpack with waist strap (looked full)
4 - looking straight at me, and only at me, earlier avoided help from other staff and ignored the 'WTFs' from the tradies in the store as he was talking quite loudly.
5 - cash both times, \$5 note first time, then 55 cents exact change for second purchase (hmm - more 5s)

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:16 PM

5 - cash both times, \$5 note first time, then 55 cents exact change for second purchase (hmm - more 5s)

Heh 555 three 5s, cubed to the third power, 5 x 5 x 5 maybe another piece of the puzzle?

[edit on 6/5/2007 by Karl7772000]

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:23 PM

Originally posted by ucanneverdie

since no one touched base on what was on the bottom of the card on the front i thought i would for you.

i found several meanings for PTO
-patent and trademark office
-power take off (a driveshaft in a tractor)
-paid time off
none that mean anything (if this french dude is playing a trick i WILL find him...lol)

Its saying Please Turn Over. As in, if you get Yes, go back to the question, if you get No, Turn the card over.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:46 PM

Originally posted by 1freelectron
Also... on the other cards are the Y, N check boxes marked the same with two checks or two X's. I know you stated that they were marked different on each one, but I am wondering if there is more meaning to them being marked that way.
do any of them have a check in Y, and a check in N on the same card? or the opposite, does one have the boxes both with an X ??

[edit on 5-6-2007 by 1freelectron]

two of them are the same as the scan on the firswt page of this thread, the other is opposite - cross in the 'No' and tick in the 'Yes'

In all three these marks are hand drawn.

Also in one (in another persons possession ATM) the 'y' in the top corner has a leading tail on it like cursive writing.

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:50 PM
regarding RAN, you didn't run, therefore he marked N. If you did run, he may have chased you down, which is why the Y path leads to N anyways.

No clue as to what PTO means though.

i haven't read the whole thread, but heres what i think about some of the other things.

regarding the light bulb, try seeing if when you shine light on that spot, see if it casts a shadow and see what comes up.

ok heres something crazy. There are 6 sides on a cube, but there are only 3 shown. Perhaps it correlates to the square with 3 backwards on it. If you look from the back, that 3 is facing the correct side.

also, the 3 dots is shorthand for "therefore". someone probably stated that, but i thought i would throw that in.

pm can be prime minister(perhaps one to come? someone threw out time travel, you may be part of his political party, and his name could be Dixit.) private message, and im sure theres more but i can't think of them.

the + on one number supposes a charge on something, but i don't know.

Anyhow that my 2 cents

Dan

edit: i went back and read the other stuff and i feel retarded =P. anyhow good luck with this. He has an idea and wants to share it, which could be a 5th dimension. just and idea. i didn't come up with it though

[edit on 5-6-2007 by DollyDagger]

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:03 PM

Originally posted by DollyDagger
regarding the light bulb, try seeing if when you shine light on that spot, see if it casts a shadow and see what comes up.

No shadows come out - the paper just becomes a little transparent with no linking of info from front and back.

Also checked authenticity markings like UV and a few other methods like very small words finely printed. No Success (tick!:lol

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:08 PM
eh. well it was worth a shot

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:23 PM
Next time you see this guy very politely tell him that you are really interested in the puzzle and see if he'll elaborate. Have you seen this guy before? Being a small town you would know if he's local or not. Light traveling in 5 dimensions just sorta jumped out at me as soon as i saw the scans of the card. Has anyone passed on to any University Professors? This has really piqued my interest...

posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:28 PM
Being a small town I recognise most if not all of my customers. However I believe that I havent seen him before neither has our staff.
I'll be sure to ask him if/when he comes back but he did seem a little angry over something.

posted on Jun, 6 2007 @ 01:49 AM
I'm not even going to attempt decoding this as it seems extremely frustrating.

* This guy is possibly 'crazy' and the entire thing is a figment of his imagination.
(Could also have been another hoax but for some reason I highly doubt it. What the hell are foreigners doing starting hoaxes in small towns in central QLD ?)

OR

* This guy has just given you some information that for some reason he couldn't post to Canberra, or distribute to people in any major population centres.

The interesting thing I find is that your work is situated in a small town in central Queensland. If I wanted someone to 'discover' something that I was not at liberty to talk about (or possibly even just verify a theory) I would go to one of the capitals and hand out thousands in the densest areas of the city as opposed to giving out a few cards in a small and 'out of the way' electronics store.

One idea may to be to contact staff from other electronics shops around your general area (maybe even throughout Queensland or all of Australia if you are using e-mail) and ask if they have seen anything similar. It could be that there are different cards that help make sense of the message with the goal of bringing people skilled in electronics together. Your card may be just a tiny piece of the puzzle. You mentioned that the third card was slightly different as yes was ticked. This variable could possibly be an unknown on another card - you see what I'm getting at anyway.

If your 3 cards are the only variety you could guess that he has distributed them widely to relevant people, OR your 3 cards are the only ones, in which case you might get lucky and have him come back.

I know it sounds a little nuts but if this card really does turn out to be something important, then I'll bet theres a damn good reason he came to your small town.

I must say though I am quite sceptical but it seems like a very interesting story

[edit on 6-6-2007 by seenitall]

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