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reply posted on 2-6-2007 @ 09:41 PM by jsobecky
Originally posted by Justin Oldham
Originally posted by jsobecky
It can't just be an example of good police work.


In and of itself it is a fantastic piece of police work. How-ever, we should expect to see politicians at the Federal level use the many instances of good police work that will take place this year...to justify...the need for more legislation...that will...enhance their power, while at the same time...chipping away at your civil liberties.

The days of the humble man are long gone, if they ever existed. People seize every opportunity to further their own agendas. And I just don't believe that all the politicians are reading from the same playbook. How such a conspiracy could survive from one administration to the next is beyond me.

Don't believe me? That's quite alright. Tune in to your favorite news and....wait for it...watch as the reporters ask, "what more can be done to stop things like this?" Then, listen to the political answer. "With greater empahsis on law enforcement and improved legislation, we can clamp down on these things but I'm not sure we can stop them all."

Politicians have been giving that same pat answer for as long as they have been politicians. What would you expect them to say: "Now that we've foiled this plot, we can dismantle the law enforcement agencies and revoke a ton of laws that we charged the perps with breaking".?

The thing with certain viewpoints on ATS is that they can never be wrong:

If the feds foil a plot, then it's just a propaganda tool to enslave us.

If a terror plot succeeds, then it was just a propaganda move to enslave us.

It's as predictable as the sunrise.


reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 01:31 AM by revolve
someone asked the question "why ny?"
easy. it's the most world renound city, closest to washington DC.
im just saying I wouldn't put it past old Dubya Bush that this is another ploy for scare tactic control. and its obvious...he's a lazy bastard and doesn't want to go to far out of state for a national conspiracy. he doesn't give a # and will do what ever he (or his puppet masters) see fit to turn us, brothers and sisters of the world, of the USA, against one another. We are taught to trust no one, to follow blindly, to consume.
I feel a revolution is upon us! Our programing is realized! FIGHT THE SYSTEM!
oh #...sorry about that...kind of got off the topic.

i realize i said we need to trust, and for the person who says "well your not trusting the president!" i say to that rare bush supporter...please wake up...please do your homework...join the real world, because we miss you here on earth!!! i love you, your mom loves you, please come home!!

oh #...did it again.

i admit, i have no reason to believe that this particular incident was the work of the anti-christ...oh...i mean Bush...ya, bush. Hell it probably was terrorists. i'd probably go to Iraqi airports and terrorize # to, if they had come to our country bombed my city and killed my family and friends. right?
Scary? i don't think we've seen scary. to be honest i'm more afraid of my own government than any sort of terrorist attack. Patriot act...what the # is that #!!

damn it...sorry

sooo, thats "why NY"
thank you.



reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 11:25 AM by Souljah
Ah yes - another terrorist plot prevented!

Proof that bushes "War of Terror is working!

Proof that world safer!

Proof that terrorists of all nations and nationalities want to harm American way of life!

Or is it?

JFK Four: Connecting Propaganda Dots from Jamaat al-Muslimeen to Hugo Chávez?

Russell Defreitas, the elderly and hapless patsy ensnared by the FBI for the crime of dreaming up a fantastical plot to blow up Kennedy Airport, “may have been inspired by Osama bin Laden,” however “was not an al-Qaida wannabe, according to authorities. He told an FBI informant that he and other non-Arab Muslims in Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana wanted to do their part in the global jihad,” Newsday reports. These “other non-Arab Muslims in Trinidad and Tobago and Guyana” are allegedly members of Jamaat al-Muslimeen, a Muslim group headed up by Imam Yasin Abu Bakr, who led members in an attempted coup d’état against the government of Trinidad and Tobago in July 1990. Bakr is a former policeman who converted to Islam while a student in Canada.

“U.S. and Trinidadian authorities have kept a close eye on the Jammat’s activities since the 9/11 attacks, but there is no hard evidence tying the group to international terrorism, let alone al-Qaeda,” writes Chris Zambelis for Global Terrorism Analysis, a Jamestown Foundation publication (the foundation is linked to CIA asset Richard Mellon Scaife and PNAC; members include James Woolsey and Zbigniew Brzezinski). “However, Abu Bakr did maintain links with Libya’s Muammar Qadhafi in the 1980s and 90s and considers him a close friend to this day. The Jammat reportedly received funds through Libya’s World Islamic Call Society (WICS) to finance the construction of its main mosque, schools, and a medical center, but there is no evidence linking Tripoli with the failed 1990 coup attempt. Abu Bakr’s most recent publicized links with controversial international figures include Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.”

But never mind. I’ll bet a dollar to a donut the corporate media eventually gets around to linking Russell Defreitas and his hapless patsies to Hugo Chávez, who is targeted for extinction by the neocons and their kissing cousins, the neolibs.

Well if I would not know better, I would say that this is yet another example of a very nicely executed PSYOPS allied with corporate media (CNN), to further spread fear and panic and to keep the general public under control. Suddenly there are Al-Qaeda terrorists in Carribbean, they are of course connected to Osama himself and they have ties to Huga Chavez and his dictatorship/socialist/rouge state of Venezuela. And they all want to attack America. It has nothing to do with PSYOPS, or with deception, disinformation, making up certain facts and above all, scaring people. Very well done, if judging by certain posts by members here.


reply posted on 3-6-2007 @ 12:05 PM by darkbluesky
Here is an interesting plot line in this story. According to reports, the pipelines that were being targeted are owned by Buckeye Pipeline Co., a division or subsidiary of Buckeye Partners, LP. The controlling interest of Buckeye Partners was, until very recently owned by the Carlyle Group.

Carlyle/Riverstone purchases controlling interest in Buckeye Partners

Carlyle sold its controlling interests in April 2007.

Carlyle Riverstone sells controlling interest in Buckeye

The relationship between The Bush's (who are affiliated with Carlyle but are not partners) and Bin Laden family and many other wealthy Saudi families who are also involved with Carlyle has been well established.

Bin Laden family Ties to Carlyle

Coincidence? Probably, but interesting nevertheless.

Most would be very surprised to learn what other prominent political and industrial families are affiliated with Carlyle...





[edit on 6/3/2007 by darkbluesky]

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