Originally posted by mazzroth
Ive regularly heard Ron Paul talk about abolishment on the Federal Reserve but he is also realistic in that he states its probably not going to happen
but you can try.
As for the IRS and tax collection, how do you think your lifestyle would compare today if noone but companies paid tax's ? does the word Plantations
and caves sound good ?
You have to pay tax for a country to run, you do have to draw the line at what is a fair amount though.
Our lifestyle wouldnt change one bit. Roads are paid by the gasoline tax, schools are paid by property tax, military gets their money from corporate
100% of all income tax collected goes directly to the private bank known as the Federal Reserve. The Grace Commission determined this in 1983 after
two years of extensive research by the top 100+ business minds in the country. Not one cent of all taxes pays for any civic services. All of your
money goes to the Rockefeller family, the Rothschilds family, and the other owners.
And for the other poster, a tax on income is illegal. The Constitution only allows for direct apportioned tax, what we have is unapportioned. The 16th
amendment which the IRS claims as justification for collecting this tax doesnt allow for it either. The US Supreme Court has ruled on several
occasions that the 16th amendment grants no new power of taxation. And therefore, if they couldnt tax us before the 16th amendment (they couldnt),
then they cant after.
To the other poster, that 3% flat tax on income was in fact legal because it was apportioned. Whats illegal is the current system which is
Finally, the Constitution strictly states that only congress shall have the power to print money and that money must be backed by precious metal.
Futhermore, the US Supreme Court has ruled that Congress can NOT allocate that responsibility to anyone else.
There was a reason for the Constitution directly making sure that congress only woul print money. Our founding fathers were well aware the power and
danger a private bank would have if it controlled the issuance of money...
Thomas Jefferson wrote...
"If the American people ever allow private banks
to control the issue of their money,
first by inflation and then by deflation,
the banks and corporations that will
grow up around them (around the banks),
will deprive the people of their property
until their children will wake up homeless
on the continent their fathers conquered."
What others think of the Federal Reserve...
The Grace Commission said...
"100% of what is collected is absorbed
solely by interest on the Federal Debt ...
all individual income tax revenues are gone
before one nickel is spent on the services
taxpayers expect from government."
Henry Ford said...
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand
our banking and monetary system, for if they did,
I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
Andrew Jackson said...
"The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government
... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people
should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the
establishment of another like it."
Charles Lindbergh SR said...
"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the
most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs
the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be
legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated
by this banking and currency Bill."
And the idiot who signed the illegal Federal Reserve act, Woodrow Wilson later realized his mistake. He stated...
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country.
A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit.
Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation,
therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men.
We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely
controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world.
No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by
conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by
the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."
And if you understand how we got the debt, its really a rather disgusting scam. Basically the govt goes to the Fed and says we need 500 billion
dollars to cover our budget this year. The fed creates 500 billion dollars by pushing a few keys on a computer and transfers the money to the govt's
account. And in exchange for those digits, our govt hands over us govt bonds which the american taxpayer is now obligated to pay INTEREST on.
The bank didnt hand over any gold or silver or anything of value. And yet we are now required to be taxed so they get their money. And thats why both
the Federal Reserve Act and the 16th amendment were alleged to have passed (i say alleged because research done says the 16th amendment was never
properly or legally ratified) in the very same year of 1913.
We do have an option. The Federal Reserve act left us without a way out of this arrangement. We can buy out the Federal Reserve, something like 450
billion dollars and we'd get back the power to print our money. We pay more than that each year in interest alone on the debt, so it would be a wise
buyout. But Congress wont dare go after their financial backers unless they dont want to be re-elected
[edit on 6-6-2007 by admriker444]