The Trumbull ufo story unfolded live on coast to coast when Art Bell
was hosting one night .. You can download the show somewhere and listen
to it .. it's quite interesting ! Good post !

[edit on 1-6-2007 by gen.disaray]

I will start this by saying that although I completely believe that each of these cases could be craft from another world, it is quite possible they were something else. But the astronomer James McGaha is a complete and total moron, and anyone who thinks the guy is even somewhat credible or has a viable idea in that case, is also a complete moron. It's pretty clear who pays his salary.

Yeah, multiple police officers made a mistake indentifying a star or planet. How stupid does one have to be to do that exactly? These police officers chased a star or planet, had it hover low over one of them which mechanically affected his car (which would happen if the proulsion system from the craft was based on an electromagnetic energy source, much like the effects of an EMP), and then of course the police officer up on the tower, he mis-read three stars and planets, blinking like christmas trees in four different distinguishable colors.

I believe that each of these cases can be explained by different configurations of ARVs built in covert programs, or they can be explained by the plethora of off planet cultures observing us at any given time. But any other explanation is just humans being stupid as usual.

I mean, why is it so hard for people to accept that off planet cultures are real and they've been here for a long freakin time? That a public disinformation campaign has existed since the 40's and that the big media is almost entirely controlled? Is 200 trillion dollars worth of proven oil and coal reserves, that people own, so hard to understand?

Thousands of cases prove it, hundreds of highly credible military, intelligence, government, corporate and scientific witnesses have come forward with documented proof of it. Hundreds of video's have been taken including nasa's own cameras.

They must be looking down at us and just shaking their heads. How could a race be this intellectually incompetent, which is what the human race is.

It's rather sick actually.

These are pretty compelling cases, unless a large number of people have conspired to "have us on" there is little doubt something genuinely bizarre happened and I am willing to bet my house it wasn't the mis identification of a bloody star!

I wonder if any serious follow up has been done on these cases? We may dig into the Ohio case a little deeper this summer, I've got family in Mentor, so a trip could easily be arranged.

If anyone has any good contact info for any of the people involved (witnesses) I'd appreciate you sharing it with me.

Springer...

[edit on 6-2-2007 by Springer]

Great videos, really and truly is hard evidence that UFOs exist. That astronomer had absolutely no Points at all.

Great videos, really and truly is hard evidence that UFOs exist. That astronomer had absolutely no Points proven at all.

o yeah, does anyone have any idea when this was broad casted?

~BG~

[edit on 2-6-2007 by triviumfan321]

Good post. I must say in most of these cases of UFO's the De-bunkers end u infuriating me more than anything else. Most people, especially in the case of multiple witnesses are not idiots. I saw a sighting in 1984 central CT with well over 500 witnesses, hell cars were pulled over with people outside watching. The next morning it was explained as ultra-crafts flying in formation. That was simply a bold face lie.

The best line of the whole video came from the officer that climbed the old radar tower and saw the 3 ufos.

If these are planets then they're planets with Christmas lights on them.

The astronomer that they brought on to debunk this was a tool. How would it be possible that someone could call in a report about a fireball that was still hanging around later when the officer arrived. Anyone who has ever called for the police to check something out knows that it would take at least 10 min for them to arrive. That's being really optimistic.

I love how he points out that police are not qualified to look at the sky, but he's somehow a qualified to explain that cars can just stop at odd times unexplained. Who is he? Mr. Goodwrench? Did anyone else see the irony of that statement?

We don't know what it was, but we know what it was not. It was not a planet or a fireball. I suspect the FAA controller didn't see it because he was afraid he would lose his job if he admitted he saw things that didn't show up on radar.

[edit on 3-6-2007 by dbates]

I love it when she puts the word out to the officers and it cuts to a fast food joint.

I did enjoy the 2 video's btw

The large guy with the wig and glasses toward's the end bugged me.

muahahha

Regard's
Lee



[edit on 3-6-2007 by h3akalee]

Hello all,

Amazing video clips

I was just thinking in relation to the earlier discussion regarding cameras on Police cars, etc... In the video its mentioned that it was traveling down the streets, im not 100% certain of the height this object was at but wouldnt any security cameras or traffic cameras have captured this...

Im certainly going to try and find more accounts of this and see if some form of 'route taken' could be marked out on a map.

Dal

I have to agree with the sentiment the "astronomer" made an utter ass of himself. To make the statement that dozens of civilians and police officers are not qualified or trained to observe odd objects in the night sky is ludicrous.

How the heck does he know there were no astronomers, aerospace engineers, meteorologists, astrophysicists, etc... in the group? He ASSUMED it, that's good scientific method! NOT

Additionally, the comment that the officer who was UNDER the object was seeing a "fireball or a meteor" was just STUPID IMHO. While I generally avoid speculating as to whether people like this are paid dis informants or just so arrogant they are blind in this case I had to speak out.

Springer...

I have to agree also that the astronomer made an ass of himself. I understand that people have a right to there opinion, however how can one dismiss the 15 police officers accounts of what happen. I thought being a man of science (ie astronomer) that they are suppose to keep an open mind. Also Police officers are trained in being great observers. (Not all) The FAA Tower not seeing a thing is just more proof that the government is still trying to keep the truth about UFO's from the American people and the world.

[edit on 06/2/2007 by tjshultz]

For being such a miraculous and 'bigger' UFO story, I've never heard of it! Amazing! Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

This incident is pretty convincing.

The only mundane explanation I'd be willing to accept is that a top secret aircraft was flying over the area. The same goes for other sightings of black triangles.

Of all the possibilities I know, the only further explanation that makes sense is that the black triangles are actually stealth blimps. However, I'm very skeptical about the military producing these blimps, the effectiveness of which would be questionable in the context of modern warfare/espionage.

Does anyone have any info on the stealth blimp and whether it's actually been tested?

It seems weird that a stealth device would fly over populated areas (as black triangles often have). I could accept the possibility of a test run, by which the military would assess public reactions to sightings of a top secret vehicle, but black triangles have been spotted too many times for this to be a viable explanation.

Also, it doesn't make sense, if you ask me, to adorn a low-flying stealth blimp with a bunch of lights that make it visible for miles around.

Finally, black triangles have been spotted for decades. One investigator in Britain dug up black triangle sightings dating back to the 60s.

Now that the thread has established that the object was most probably a vehicle, would it be possible to steer the discussion towards potential candidates, starting of course with the terrestrial kind?

Don't forget to see the Illinois UFO sighting. They mention triangles as well and some of the maneuvers that the ships make would be difficult for a blimp.

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The Belgium incident is probably the most interesting case involving black triangles. The reliability of the witnesses and the amount of available information make this a very difficult case to debunk or even question (which is probably why it's rarely mentioned).

Any meta-analysis of the "black triangle" group of sightings would almost undoubtedly conclude there is something there, that the objects in question are in fact vehicles of some sort, and that they display a level of technology leagues ahead of anything our civilization has produced.

The possibility exists that these craft are covert vehicles of some kind, but this seems extremely unlikely -- if not unthinkable -- given the number of sightings over decades. Also, the fact that the craft have been reported in several different countries' airspace makes this hypothesis extremely unlikely. What kind of nation would parade its biggest secret in front of the people they are trying to hide it from?

For these reasons, in the case of the black triangles, I think it is safe to raise the possibility of extraterrestrial visitations.

Originally posted by cambrian77
The Belgium incident is probably the most interesting case involving black triangles. The reliability of the witnesses and the amount of available information make this a very difficult case to debunk or even question (which is probably why it's rarely mentioned).

Any meta-analysis of the "black triangle" group of sightings would almost undoubtedly conclude there is something there, that the objects in question are in fact vehicles of some sort, and that they display a level of technology leagues ahead of anything our civilization has produced.

The possibility exists that these craft are covert vehicles of some kind, but this seems extremely unlikely -- if not unthinkable -- given the number of sightings over decades. Also, the fact that the craft have been reported in several different countries' airspace makes this hypothesis extremely unlikely. What kind of nation would parade its biggest secret in front of the people they are trying to hide it from?

For these reasons, in the case of the black triangles, I think it is safe to raise the possibility of extraterrestrial visitations.

After several of these incidents involving triangles with exceptional flying capabilitiies, the Belgium military actually held a press conference - high ranking officials - to the media, and showed what was observed on the F-16's radar as the planes chased after the triangles.

There was actually a professor of aeronautics from the Belgium military flight school who analyzed the situation and the data from the radar, and he stated something to the effect that is no other plausible explanation than one involving extra-terrestrial beings. The triangle was seen to break the sound barrier several times (tracked by several types of radar), while no one heard sonic booms. The triangles also were silent, quite difficult for crafts of that size flying at such incredible speeds.

I know that it's incredible to think that other worldly beings have visited us (for the longest time, I nevered believed in UFOs), but this case, is one among many others, that have led me to believe this alien explanation as a very strong possibility - as crazy as it sounds.