Nick Pope Declares Total Disclosure of All British UFO Files This Summer., page 2
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reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 03:53 PM by schuyler
Originally posted by Sophismata
It's typical of conspiracy theories, and that was my point. If "A" happens, I'm right. If "not A" happens, I'm still right. It's very convenient. It's not condescending. It's just plain logic. If you don't get it, change your username from "LogicalThinker" to something else.


Technically, according to the laws of logic, you are absolutely correct. I think the problem might be in 'assuming the syllogism.' In other words, there is a lot left unsaid on this issue. Probably the largest elephant in the room on this one is a basic mis-trust of government. Lets just stay with the ufo file subject rather than move too far afield, but there is an impression that the governments have lied to us. Is this backed up by evidence? It gets tricky at this point because there is so much fraud OUTSIDE government on these issues, but if you take the reports individual citizens have submitted TO government and seen how the agencies have managed to explain away most of them, to the shock of the reporters themselves, then it looks like the preponderance of hundreds, if not thousand of 'explained' reports would point to government not being entirely truthful. For evidence of this I refer especially to "UFOs and the National Security State" by Richard Dolan, and "Above Top Secret," by Timothy Good where there are literally hundreds of examples of this sort of behavior. Two huge books everyone should read.

Add to this the releases governments already have done. To read initial threads like this, it's almost implicit that at least some OTHER government will release its files, unlike the big bad US. Not true, of course. The Blue Book Files were published years ago and are largely online. The FBI released a huge bunch of files a few years ago. Quite a few meaty tales have been pried loose with the FOIA. In fact, I think you could make a case that the US was the first country to release its files in depth.

Of course, no one believes that's all of them. Once again, Richard Dolan, for one, makes a pretty good case that Project Blue Book was a public relations effort put on by the Air Force. At least it pretended to be straightforward. The Condon Report, which gave the USAF an excuse to bail on official Blue Book, was biased from the start with Condon himself saying he didn't believe in it a bit, before the research was finished. Talk about illogical behavior!

So with those kinds of incidents in immediate past history, which are well documented from numerous sources, no wonder people have a priori decided that even if Great Britain releases some files, it is unlikely anything important will be disclosed. From a strictly logical point of view, it IS illogical, but from an experience point of view, it isn't.



reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 04:32 PM by Fowl Play
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