Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by darkbluesky

I have noticed a very gradual change in my perception of the luminescence of regular everyday sunshine on clear days over the last few years. The light seemed much softer, less harsh in my childhood.

Suppose therre was something serious going on with the Sun. Do you think those who knew the truth would want everyone to know the truth?

The truth is the sun is pregnant and just like with any other pregnancy she becomes softer, less harsh with a radiant inner glow.

I don't know exactly when the 'due' date is but somehow I don't think I'll be around and even if I was I don't think I would be in that information loop.

I think you got that backwards. He said it's MORE harsh now than it was in his childhood. I've noticed the same thing, but only in some areas. Like when I'm driving through Georgia I HAVE to wear my sunglasses, but when I'm out west, I don't need them as often.

Originally posted by Zaphod58

I think you got that backwards. He said it's MORE harsh now than it was in his childhood. I've noticed the same thing, but only in some areas. Like when I'm driving through Georgia I HAVE to wear my sunglasses, but when I'm out west, I don't need them as often.

Whoops! Sorry! My bad. Must be a difficult pregnancy.

John you made me choke you gotta stop crackin me up.

Now back to that Planet you alls talkin" about. Wonder what's below the surface????????

what is your proof rockpuck?

colorful images of venus that are meant to represent something?

im not defending lear here but no one can really prove anything...

why you come in this thread if you dont believe it? why post mean posts? if you dont like what lear believes you can let us know and then be done with it..

you shouldnt insult anyone

Originally posted by biotic
why you come in this thread if you dont believe it? why post mean posts?

Isn't it obvious? Look at his Avatar... He is one of THEM... Of course THEY don't want the truth to get out...

Illuminati... and a master at that...

Wonder if he can prove that



Oh and I had dinner with that guy in the picture... he's really not so bad when you get to know him

[edit on 2-6-2007 by zorgon]

isn't that an orc from the two towers

the one they make an isengaurd, hes like a leader orc

He's an Uruk-hai. It's a type of orc but it's bred with something else to make them bigger, smarter and stronger.

oh yea thats right

sauromon did design them tho, correct?

Sauron created the first ones, but they were shorter with bulkier shorter arms. Sauromon created this one that was more human looking. If you look closely at the movies you'll see two different types of Uruk-hai. One created by Sauron the other by Sauromon.

Originally posted by Stale Cracker
Hi John, do you have anything to say about Venus' retrograde rotation VS the rest of the solar systems antegrade planetary rotation? Do you think this is a quirk of early disk accretion theory or was it the result of an ancient cataclysm?
[edit on 31-5-2007 by Stale Cracker]

The planet x collision theory? Perhapse this planet's other half?

well i am hoping it's true i want to move there!!!! let's go

from quotes from various people with major political influence.. to events like 9/11 and even the oklahoma federal building bombing.. it's quite evident that our government has an alterior motive, attempting to tighten their grip as far as control goes. what ever that takes is done, for what ever purpose they have.

this alone already has me with a sketchy perception towards them. so if there is substantial evidence towards that, if not, proof itself. why would i trust nasa? i know that prior to nasa we were given the supposed description of venus.. but this along with other planets are made out to be completely uninhabitable.
and i honestly don't believe technology prior to nasa's construction was advanced enough to make clear and complete judgement on venus' atmosphere. well, that is.. not without government funding

i'm not saying i believe john.. but so far, it seems john atleast makes a genuine and sincere attempt to bring forth what he believes is truth.

and a program sponsored, funded and backed by a government which has lied to me in the past over events which include mass murder and other serious issues.. well, let's just say i wouldn't take the latter option if i were forced to make a decision at gunpoint.

[edit on 3-6-2007 by Malakai]

This is the smoking gun for me that johnlear is a disinfo agent. Aliens exist, there's mountains of evidence to that effect, from paleocontact evidence to the Roswell memo. Putting forth a very weak case such as this with no substantiation, a case which would have people believe that NASA and every astronomer in the world (just about anyone with rudimentary equipment could tell from Earth that Venus has levels of CO2 that would be fatal to humans) has faked gigabytes of data (if not more) on Venus can only be "poisoning the well". Maybe Venus was inhabited at one time, but at the present every shred of evidence we have regarding that world demonstrates it as utterly inhospitable to life. For the foregoing reasons, I believe that John Lear has deliberately advanced what he knows to be weak, laughable, and fraudulent case to discredit the legitimate UFO research community.

[edit on 3-6-2007 by uberarcanist]