What to do when you just cant leave. (city Survival), page 1
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Topic started on 30-5-2007 @ 10:27 AM by angryamerican
The title should actually be what to do if you just cant leave. I was reading threw Evacuation of cities And it got me thinking. What happens when you cant leave. Never mind the reason why there could be a bunch of things causing you to stay.

Water, Food, and shelter. Are three main ingredient's for survival. Baleave it or not an almost abandoned city can supply all three. One on a short term basis and two on a long term basis. So lets break them down.

WATER
For quite a while you will be able to get water in the big city even when the mains are down. The trick is gravity. Find the tallest building you can. Go to the ground floor or basement level. All the water sitting in the pipes on the upper floors will want to come down. so just find a sink on a lower level and turn it on. if the pipes have one way valves in them like a lot of newer building do well then this becomes a little harder but still doable. you just have to go floor by floor breaking in walls looking for the pipes. Your target is the big supply pipe with the one way valve on it. Your tool of choice is a sludge hammer. in the older buildings for smashing black pipe. if the pipe is copper you will need a pipe cutter. Pipe cutter are simple cheap tools.
If the pipes are more modern PVC a hack saw will do. The objective is to cut or break the pipe after the one way valve so any water trapped behind that valve will be released. Another good source is toilet tanks and well pressure tanks If your really luck your city has a artisans fountain. fountains inside malls are another good source just don't forget to treat it before drinking it.

FOOD
Abandoned or almost abandoned city's off vast amounts of food. It may not be attractive food but any food is good when your starving. The back rooms of stores are a good place to start looking. the shelves will probably be bare in the shopping area but panicked people aren't always rational so my bet is you will still be able to find food in the back or ware house area. When all those areas are barren well then you have to fall back on your hunting instinct. being a pet owner I find this distasteful but in survival its us or them. people abandoned cats and dogs when the attempt to flee. many will be starving so they will be slow and easy to catch.. if it helps think of it as doing a mercy killing. Your showing them mercy by ending there suffering and showing yourself mercy by feeding your self. When that food source gets scarce there is and always will be rodents. yes thats right rats and mice. hay there meat people. Another thing I should mention is vitamins. nobody who is raiding a store for food to survive is going to stop at the vitamin isle. bad for them good for you. the food stocks of city's is going to be primarily meat, leaving a big hole in your nutrition. thats what the vitamins are for. don't forget insects, they are a wonderful source. Some of them can be down right tasty. A source of cooking and heating is peoples abandoned gas grills, so don't forget to cook that meat.

SHELTER

This ones kinda a no brainer. there is so many places to hide in a city. take your pick. I personally would pick a small dumpy looking house in the resident area of the city. any survivors like you that are left behind will most likely look to the big rich houses and leave the dumpy little places alone. little places are better because they can be heated easily and they are unattractive to human vulture. if you use the abandoned grill idea for the heating don't forget to have plenty of circulation. it would suck to survive a cataclysm only to die of asphyxiation. there should not be a shortage of tanks for quite some time. almost every gas station in America has refills. just use a hack saw and you have gas for months out of just one caged refill station. most stations Ive seen have two of these cages minimum. Most hold 9 tanks. that will keep your belly happy and family warm for quite some time.

Remember those who THINK Survive.


reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 11:53 AM by angryamerican
Dealing with dog packs is tuff. The main idea is to become alpha. In order to become alpha you have to take out the alpha and then whip beta into line. then the rest of the pack will follow you. But if your not into wrestling half wild starved dogs try one of those compressed air siren It scares the snot out of most animals but it is also a very quick way to tell the rest of the survivors in the city "hay I'm here". Of course a shot gun blast to the alpha is a very sad but safe way to scare the pack away. I will keep adding as I think of stuff. I actually had training in urban survival in the military thats ware a lot of this information is coming from.


reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 06:06 PM by Samhain
Originally posted by angryamerican
Dealing with dog packs is tuff. The main idea is to become alpha. In order to become alpha you have to take out the alpha and then whip beta into line. then the rest of the pack will follow you. But if your not into wrestling half wild starved dogs try one of those
compressed air siren It scares the snot out of most animals but it is also a very quick way to tell the rest of the survivors in the city "hay I'm here". Of course a shot gun blast to the alpha is a very sad but safe way to scare the pack away. I will keep adding as I think of stuff. I actually had training in urban survival in the military thats ware a lot of this information is coming from.



Yup, Taking out the alpha is the key to tackling a pack of dogs. With alpha out of the way the beta and the rest of the pack will high tail it out of there until they can figure out who the next alpha is. It all depends on how hungry they are. your best bet is to get as many dogs together as you can and eat them. the old "food on the hoof" or pad,as it is. Eat a dog every other day,throw scraps to the other dogs and keep befriending new ones. Sounds terrible but you would be surprised what you will do in a hardcore situation.
For a good look at what to do during a Sit X in the city study up on the siege of Stalingrad during WWII. People had made bread from saw dust and were cooking it in motor oil. Dog would have been like File mignon and lobster.
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