Phillips:60 Architects Support WTC7 Controlled Demolition Theory, page 8

Not sure why this thread is running on so much speculation when the info on a lot of these questions/comments has been out there a long time. Granted you have to wade through a lot of bunk to get to the professional people who have done analysis, calculations, and experiments. Keep looking. These are the sites I find have the most legitimate arguments, research and background. Note they have similar URLs to other sites that are less stringent.

stj911.org...

www.journalof911studies.com...

911research.wtc7.net...

Griff, hope that PE comes through. My ex could never get confident enough to even take the test.

I have run across a paper that is really stretching my 30 year old physics. If you have a clue about elastic loading and plastic shortening phases, maybe you can give an opinion as to whether this guy has his physics and math right.

www.journalof911studies.com...

Scroll down to Volume 1, paper by Gordon Ross on "Momentum Transfer Analysis of the Collapse of the Upper Storeys of WTC1 "

Just a note on the new site and what I have run into personally and in comments on several sites or videos.

This is one tough idea to deal with. It challenges your faith, convictions and hope for this country. If the WTC collapses were not solely the work of terrorists, what does that mean about the country and our future?

I do not discount the terrorist role. They may or may not have known that someone was on to them. The explosives causing the collapses could have been outsourced by people who were not acting in any official government capacity, or with approval at the highest level. I do suspect Cheney due to Mineta's testimony to the 9/11 commission and Shooter's PNAC/Halliburton history.

Whatever the ultimate discoveries on that score, I agree with Dr. Stephen Jones and others. There is enough evidence against, and lack of support for, the official conspiracy theory (19 Arabs conspired to fly planes into the buildings and the impact + fire brought them down) to warrant a MUCH better forensic investigation. More importantly to me, the Firefighters and Structural Engineers were calling for this by 2/02. I think they absolutely have a right to know why the buildings failed so drastically when they were over engineered to withstand the combination of the plane impact (not all that powerful, actually) and the fires. The new addition of architects and structural engineers to this effort is welcome and appropriate.

Notes on basic thermodynamics. Black smoke indicates a cool burning fire that is oxygen starved. Carbon fuels cannot get hot enough to MELT structural steel. There was a LOT of molten steel in the basements of all three WTC buildings for months. As in, the structural steel beams that the large equipment would pick up were partly melting. Finally, if you think the debris from WTC 1 caused WTC 7 to collapse, why didn't WTC 6 also collapse completely? Hint: look at aerial pictures of 6. For that matter, why didn't the Post Office and the Verizon buildings on either side of 7 get that kind of damage and collapse? Why didn't the building that was badly damaged by WTC 2 debris collapse?

The only structure in the area besides WTC buildings that had to be destroyed was an old church that was built of stone - not a steel frame high rise.

I started reading about this in March of '06 and still don't have my life back into any semblance of normal. What keeps me going is that without knowing what really happened on 9/11/01, how can we protect ourselves from a repeat? Oh, if you haven't read it or seen this yet, Google Operation Northwoods and read it. Add 40 years of more experience and the advances in technology, 9/11 is a piece of cake for the CIA/Joint Chiefs - or people who did that kind of work for them at some time in the past.