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reply posted on 6-1-2004 @ 01:48 PM by Gazrok
I would guess, that if someone really wanted to go into this, they'd first have to pay for a military service record search, and see how genuine this guy may or may not be....

Here's a link to the site:

www.stewartswerdlow.com...

Seems he's parlayed this into a new-age training business... Interestingly enough, his statements do jive with some of the research I've done, into a communications program involving humans (possibly hybrid humans) who are telepathically gifted, and that these communication links may be what the Montauk project was about, not time/space manipulation per se. But, ever the skeptic, something doesn't "feel" right about this...but I haven't read enough about him to say one way or the other yet...


reply posted on 17-11-2004 @ 06:57 AM by Dawnaj

Seems he's parlayed this into a new-age training business...


If I´ve understood Swerdlow correct his word on "New-Age" is that it is Illuminati controlled disinformation to get people as far away from true understanding of the human psyche and it´s capabillities.

Having read some of his books and the terrible story of his involvement with these "forces" I have a hard time *NOT* believing him. Though I gotta admit, most will find his stories to be so far out there to be impossible to believe.

Actually, Swerdlow is even more controversial in his claims than David Icke. Big difference though as Icke only reports on his findings and Stewart has lived through this ordeal. And he is also alot more reserved than David (who talks to anyone, everywhere), this for understandable reasons.

The Al Bielek connection mentioned above lends alot of credence to his story. Didn´t he (Al) and 2 other persons more or less save Stewart from suicide(cry for help type?) at one point?

I visit his site several times every week, he has some "free" updates on current issues which are more or less interesting. As to why he won´t have an all free website I think this is how he now makes his living. Through regular jobs he could never have full control over himself due to heavy mind-control and surveilance.

as always, think what you will - keep the ridicule factor low though...

and BTW- if it wasn´t brought up before, he also claims the Reptilians are in control. That a big spaceship containing millions of Reptilian warriors is stationed behind the moon and are waiting. They arrived trailing Hayles Comet if I remember correct from him.

sorry if any of these statements were not true of Stewart. Merger probably has better knowledge on him than I and will hopefully correct me in that case.


reply posted on 17-11-2004 @ 09:50 AM by abdul
I have been researching Montaulk, Ong's Hat, Wingmakers and other matters of high strangness for quite a few years and am perhaps one of the most informed people on the planet with regards to this subject, particularly from the memetic perspective.

It is this researcher's opinion that what we are seeing are indeed memetic echos which result in such twisted and conveniently unverifiable mythologies as Montaulk. Mythologies which may indeeed be rooted in some truth, however one must be actively seeking WHO planted these seeds and not be distracted by all of the pretty stories which spring from them. Look at Peter Moon. He has constructed and is the source of most of the Montaulk mythos. Chica Bruce tries to appear somewhat objective in her work, but is still just regurgatating the same sordid tales of covert human experimentation espoused by Moon, almost detail for detail. No original research.

Al Bielek, Duncan Cameron, and Preston Nichols are all a bunch of crackpots! Anyone who has taken college level physics and math could tell that they were just making everything up as they went. All of the interviews with these guys are completely non-sensical...no hard science or mathematics governing the actual mechanisms of the so-called "Delta T" antenna which was supposedly at the core of the Montaulk technology were ever presented...

Google Usenet for the proof of debunking...

Now with that said, I do believe that there are groups using these different storylines as the mechanism to manipulate intelligent peoples' perceptions of the possibility of easily constructible inter-dimensional travel technologies.

Ong's Hat Incunabula is another related system of internet propagated meme virii. Joe Matheny is likely both an oppurtunist and a dis/misinformation agent.

[edit on 17-11-2004 by abdul]



reply posted on 17-11-2004 @ 08:34 PM by abdul
Thanks for the kudos Merge...this is the first message board I've really participated in and I'm still trying to figure out how to get my point across clearly...



with regards to the 'Delta T' antenna, from the research i've gained about Hyperspace, is that it does not fall in the 'scientific' or 'mathematic' equation, because, the Delta T antenna is not based on 3 dimensional physical reality. It is beyond that, a level of 'hyperspace' is where it belongs.


I think what you're trying to say is that the Delta T's effects affect our reality in the higher dimensions, so called "Hyperspace", yet the antenna exists here in 4-D reality. Is it possible to build such a device as to effect the force-geometry of higher-dimensional reality? Most likely, yes, if the existence of higher-dimensions is proven and we can get an idea of its structure we may be able to manipulate it. Of course it is theorised that these dimensions may be "bound up" and so tiny that it may be very difficult to probe these levels. It would require enormous energies....see superstrings/chalabi-yau manifolds and other related topics...

There are quite a few pictures out on the net of the supposed Delta T. The most detailed picture I know of looks like a modified rooftop UHF TV antenna. The pictures of the devices which drive the antenna just show some fancy looking dials and switches and the few sloppy schematic like drawings could be snippets from virtually any piece of RF circuitry.


have you come across any positive evidence that projects such as the Montauk project existed? Any plausible and sound knowledge about it


No smoking guns, but one of the core tenets of memetics is that if a mythical system exists and makes itself known amongst the collective conscious of a population then it must have significance and is likely based in some truth. This is why many people who have been seriously researching the Montaulk mythos have come to the conclusion that it is indeed a mechanism designed to distract people from taking seriously the notion of covert government research into time-travel/inter-dimenstional travel.

With this being said, research into the Finders Case and Presidio/McMartin does lead one to believe that there are covert military research programs involving children of all ages, especially orphans and runaways. These cases seem to parrallel certain themes from Montaulk and Ong's Hat, particularly the use of children in scientific research which resembles "black magic" ritual. What does happen to all of the children and young adults reported missing that never turn up? Why is it that the FBI compiles very detailed statistics on every crime with the exception of child kidnapping? The Finder's case is a particularly poignant example of direct CIA involvment in child slave trafficking. Taking these cases into account, it is not too far fetched to think that research as bizarre as Montaulk may be taking place. But the stories proposed by Moon et. al. are at best just an elaborate subterfuge.

[edit on 18-11-2004 by abdul]


reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 11:51 AM by Merger
Abdul,

Never heard of the 'Merkaba.

With regards to Montauk and the visualisations, it was first acknowledged that using visualisations such as the Delta T did what they wanted at the time, however some psychics/mentalists began to actually have the power to manifest things in THIS reality through the sheer practice of it all. I am then led to believe that this was enhanced by technology. to yes, Manifest objects, Inter-dimensional beings, and travel interdimensionally.

With regards to travelling to a simultaneous existance, yes, my physical body stayed here, I was fully concious of the room, however the images and thoughts were of (and I 'DO' Believe) another place/time. Many people experienced being 'weird' animals, and being on different planets and so forth.

With regards to the Montauk Boys, one is actually very psychic. This particular person was mainly used for his genetics. They still hound him to this day, he has photgraphic memory, and remembers being put in trances, and marched away to bases for further 'abuse' lets say.

Second one has just 'acknowledged' that he's been involved, he has found out that he has been used for psychic experiments. This person has always LOVED comics about psychics (Jean Gray in X-Men) etc...

Stewart remembers both of these two montauk boys.

Thats all I can really say about them, do not forget, this is what 'they' tell me, I cannot prove what they are telling me is the truth, but by gut instinct, I believe them. One of the Montauk boys will be written about in Stewarts new book due out soon. I think its going to be called '13 Cubed'.


reply posted on 18-11-2004 @ 12:29 PM by billybob
i've been following the work of janet and stewart since, oh, ... somewhere around late 2001.
fallen off lately, though. the reptile thing will have to actually materialize in front of me before i believe it.
i don't think it's impossible, though. it would make some sense as a source of all the vampire and werewolf lore.
i watched a four hour video of preston nichols and duncan cameron. i think they know something, and disagree that their science is totally bogus. but, whatever.
i think stewart's news section is top notch. he knows how to find the bigger patterns that are earmarks of illuminati activity. i find, though, that many of the things 'new age' that he decries when others promote them, he doesn't mind charging for. there was a tetrahedron pendant that you could buy for 'protection' for example. tetrahedron is the shape of the 'merkaba', or light body. this is a 'new age' philosophy of drunvalo melchezidek. drunvalo actually has some very eye opening material when it comes to the geometry of reality, but stewart says he is 'cia mind control'.
stewart says all channelling comes from sattelite transmissions as an elaborate form of duping the populace. then he says, through his techniques, you can contact 'godmind'. these are inconsistencies in my eyes, and make me suspect him of being just another disinfo guy.
i don't think he is necessarily complicit, and he may just be a well shaped tool. i like him. i think it is people like him who are telling 90% truth, but use(or are being used for) the last 10% to throw the whole picture out of whack. i think he is a valuable resource as an alternative way to 'program' your mind. i noticed the site was becoming more cult-like, though, so i haven't been there lately(before today, that is).

excellent point about memes. this is the core of reality. the meme-ium is the message.

[edit on 18-11-2004 by billybob]

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