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Topic started on 28-5-2007 @ 11:58 AM by SuspicionXT
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I'm not very eloquent with my words, so i'll just give fair warning to that.
A couple of years ago, I was sent to a low security California prison for a 2 year sentence. After a year of good behavior, they let me see the
outside of the walls doing community word (under supervision of a warden) such as cleaning litter and digging holes, mostly for new plumbing routes
and water pipes.
I was released from prison after a year and a half for my good behavior and my life hasn't been very good, as it isn't for anyone with a
prison/criminal record. So I "plummeted" and was admitted to a psychiatric hospital where I keep returning every few months because of my
depression. I continue to take the medications, although they don't seem to have any effect on my outlook on life.
My state-issued doctor attempted something drastic to spin my depression by putting me under hypnosis, which he says is actually very common, as a way
to force the deep parts of the mind to accept change.
After the hypnosis and i started to return to conciousness, my doctor looked very nervous so i asked him what had happened.
He said that he asked me a series of questions regarding why I felt i was depressed and how prison had effected.
Now, i do NOT remember this for the life of me, but my doctor says that I was recounting this during the questions in hypnosis and I kept a copy of
the notes he made. I'll say it as if i was recounting it:
Me and other inmates were sent out to dig a hole one day and as we were digging one of us hit something with his shovel that made a large deep sound
that repeated several times before fading away. As the noise was repeating, the inside of my body change with temperature from normal to deep cold.
The first thing we all assume is that it's probably just a wierd sounding water mane that someone forgot to document, so the officer goes on to radio
the water company and ask about any water manes. They respond saying that, no, it's a desolate area, should be nothing. the officer radios some other
resource companies but they all call back saying that they have no pipes in the area.
we are curious as to what it is, so, being the dumb uneducated blokes (along with officer) we are, (and the empty afternoon we had since we were
scheduled for several hours at that digging site) we start trying to digg it up.
Everytime our shovels clang with the metal thing, it makes that deep repeating sound, almost like there is a huge auditorium inside. I'm not a
scientists, but the way the the sound was booming back and forth, i think it must've been #ing huge for the time it took the sound to bounce back and
forth before fading. and every time the noise returns to us, our bodies go cold, literally, not fear. the temperature in our bodies felt much lower,
even in the hot sun we were working under. (we found it more of adrug-like experience, not one that we were scared of, we quite enjoyed it)
So after about 2 hours of lazy digging, we surveyed the plot and whatever was down there was big, black, and metallic.
however, as we were looking at the plot, one of us noticed a slightly red haze of light through the dust in the air (i guess). We went pack into the
ditch and put our hands over it and it looked like almost a laser pointer was either being pointed to the thing in the ground or vice versa.
Thats when our officer recieved a call on his radio that we were going to be forced to go back to the prison and for him to put up a "yellow" tape
around the surrounding area, as to block it off for anyone that just happened to be jogging for no good reason in the middle of a forest.
We were essentially harmless prisoners, so we helped him put up the tape and as our bus started making its way back to the prison, we could hear a
helicopter in the distance and some black cars heading in our opposite direction toward the dig. But one of the black cars had turned around and was
following us, so we pulled over. (4000 character maximum)...
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 12:05 PM by kyyuulle
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if this is true, glad to hear you're out of prison (i think)
awaiting your next part of the story eagerly
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 12:07 PM by BO XIAN
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Please continue your fascinating story.
And God's best to you as you seek to overcome life's obstacles.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 12:15 PM by Zaimless
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I have been through hypnosis for various reasons. I truely believe that there are somethings that are not to be remembered. Also that if we are to
remember these memories that they will be revealed to us in time.
We don't have to go and dig around in our minds to find things, I believe today we have enought to handle in our lives.
good luck, whatever you choose...
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 02:59 PM by quick
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Very strange story... Sounds like they hit part of some underground base or storage tank of some kind?
Please continue, I think your post got cut off a 4000 max characters, maybe you copy and pasted into your post and thought that it all was pasted
completely?
Thanks for sharing your story, must be painful to dig up after all you've been though.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 03:22 PM by Nick Nightstalker
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Quite interesting! please continue, if there's more to say.
also, do you remember anything about this at all now? or are you just going completely off of the notes your hypnotist took? do you have any feelings
or impressions when you try to think about that time? do you have a date for when this happened? can you account for that day? can you contact the
officer or other prisoners to see if they remember anything?
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 06:07 PM by ATSGUY
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Did you get your memory err eased, when the black car started following you did anyone come up into the bus, please keep going im sure there is more.
Oh and have you ever consider going back and trying to find the officer and the other digger.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 06:16 PM by wigit
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Please post the rest of your story. Also, can you remember why you were digging the hole in the first place, (what was it supposed to be for) and
what was the location?
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 07:12 PM by Jeffery2102
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hmmm u trying to keep us in suspense buddy?
hope you come back soon and tell the rest of your story.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 07:16 PM by SuspicionXT
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As i was typing up the next block of text, my computer time was up (its a computer center where you pay $3 an hour to use a computer), yeah, i'm
pretty poor.
quick answers to the questions:
Nick Nightstalker. no i don't remember any of it and i'm just reading the notes the doctor took under hypnosis. I was only going under hypnosis as
an abstract method to deal with depression but some of the questions regarding my time in prison brought this incident up. My recollection of the
prison was much like any other inmate (eat, sleep, work, read, write) with this block of time erased. For emotions, it seems most of us, even the
officer was very calm in thinking it was just an unknown pipe that carried water or natural gas. Even so, most people who are in a minimum security
prison and are able to do public community service are simply people who are paying the price for a single very big mistake, so I'd imagine if we
uncovered the dead body of an jesus christ himself, we'd be in more of a foolish manner than scared or frightened. I've only recently had my first
hypnosis session as of amonth ago with several more under my belt. Since then I've been all over the internet reading about this kind of #. i'm
much more into solving my depression and getting my life back on track than uncovering some deep dark Men in Black secret. But my doctor says that
something about the encounter with the officials is very disturbing and wants to continue analyzing it as a traumatic experience (he's also
apparently still in college(state issued doctors under Medical aren't the cream of the crop) so i don't know if he's just doing this out of his own
interest)
A typical dig can last 10 hours from the morning to the evening. They never really exactly tell us what or who we are digging for. But for the most
part, it's usually to do the excavation for plumbing and pipes for a new building/house/facility. All i can say is that the prison was in california,
and i imagine that is where the dig site was. We generally always go to sleep on the way to the dig sites as we leave early in the morning. I've
never kept in contact with anyone from the community service team after prison, yet they probably don't have any recollection of the memories since
we all underwent the same process.
I'm going to type up the rest of the the sessions in my e-mail (as it can be saved) and post in full when its finished
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 08:01 PM by roadgravel
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Sounds a little like the plot from the movie "Holes". I didn't think prisoners did any kind of labor anymore, they feel it's cruel to have to work
while in prison or jail.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 08:14 PM by Nick Nightstalker
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Please do post the rest of your story. I'm very curious to read what happened next.
as for the therapist, it could be a combination of personal interest and professionalism, since if something traumatic happened that day, it could be
the root of your depression. I recall vaguely hearing stories about people with missing time who were deeply depressed due to something that occurred
during that time, which they resolved through hypnosis.... or something similar.
Either way, anxiously awaiting the conclusion.
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reply posted on 28-5-2007 @ 08:20 PM by whaaa
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Very interesting story..........
But I have a few questions.
Why would the authorities send a group of min. security prisoners to dig a hole in an isolated forest, when I'm sure a backhoe would have been
available.
Where in California?
Good luck with your depression!
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 03:50 AM by thebox
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Thanks for sharing SuspicionXT, I wonder if you'd be able to provide a general Google Earth location on this? The surrounding area may be able to
tell us a thing or two...
With the name of the prison I can make a start myself...
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 05:08 AM by gtirlad2
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hey dude thats a intresting story, please post the rest when you get a chance
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 06:28 AM by Knight783
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Theres something not quite sitting right with me on this one, like the poster has an agenda or something. Hell, I dont know, but several things arent
adding up for me - minimum security prisoners labouring for 10 hour shifts? No mention of the prison name or location? No mention of where this was,
or why?
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 07:10 AM by Astrithr
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I don't know if the poster has an agenda or not, but at least it's an interesting read!   I would also like to know at least the general
area..North, South? If it were Rhode Island it would be different but California is a rather large state.
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 07:15 AM by krackedkid
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They would use min security prisoners for labour because its free, and a way for the prisoners to give vack to the community.
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 07:54 AM by roadgravel
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Originally posted by krackedkid
They would use min security prisoners for labour because its free, and a way for the prisoners to give vack to the community. 
Think so? I was researching this in California. There are work programs set up that pay min wage 5.75 to the inmates. There are businesses getting
cheap labor. Don't think the tax payer is getting money and the community isn't getting free labor, at least at any grand scale. I'm sure someone
will claim they are seen picking up litter here and there.
Whaaa's point about the backhoe is a good one. Why use men to slowly dig trenches when a machine will do it quicker. Time is money.
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reply posted on 29-5-2007 @ 09:11 AM by zeeon
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Originally posted by roadgravel
Think so? I was researching this in California. There are work programs set up that pay min wage 5.75 to the inmates. There are businesses getting
cheap labor. Don't think the tax payer is getting money and the community isn't getting free labor, at least at any grand scale. I'm sure someone
will claim they are seen picking up litter here and there.
Whaaa's point about the backhoe is a good one. Why use men to slowly dig trenches when a machine will do it quicker. Time is money. 
Thats just not true - My wife got sentenced to community service work program in san diego. They do all kinds of hard labor, without the use of big
machineary. You have to understand something - the state doesn't own a lot of things related to construction. That's the developer business. States
do paperwork - construction and development companies do the building / etc. If the state wants to use prisoners to work, they can, and do.
The guy's story sounds straight to me. I am quite familiar with the california state prison system (for not having been their myself).
I'm anxiously awaiting more of the gentlemans story.
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