I have now fabricated and stacked over 600 PTP’s. I still have not exceeded the 10 in/sec air flow threshold. But, even though I have to use my hands to feel the air, it is now more than ever obvious that there is perpetual air flow, and the amount to air is an exponential function of PTP stack size.

On July 21 I took the PTP stack I had at the time and showed it to a local company that does plastic extrusions. I attempted to convince them to develop the tooling necessary to extrude a PTP stack of arbitrary size. I explained to them that these stack tubes if long enough would perpetually pump enough air to do real useful work. They could sell these tubes to a third party who would produce and market free energy producing devices. Several days later after giving them requested drawings and other information I received a email stating that, at that this time they lack the resources necessary to fund this project.

This is most unfortunate for all of us. Because, If they had proceeded back in July, We would be seeing preliminary free energy producing ST devices coming to market today.

On September 27 when I had a stack of over 400 PTP’s, I Emailed them offering to drive down and show it to them. I have yet to receive a response.

Currently I am fabricating more PTP’s to add to the stack.

Has anyone else out there been experimenting with a PTP stack?

please the jet streams (theres more then one) are not i repet not prepectial motoin . 1 the earths rotation has a dirrect involvment in the amount of energy Used buy the jet stream 2 the suns light wich translates into heat also imparts energy into the jet streams .
I hate to be the barer of bad news but what hes describes CANOT work the way he clames. once your air has entered the holes theres NO way to natrial get it to enter on hole in preference to another Unless your imparting energy someware in this design .
heres a fun exparment to do with your kids to show whats hes claming is free energy .
eather get a big 100 gALLON FISH TANK OR MAKE A GLASS BOX (it doesent have to hold water.
now in one end put a samm pile of semi wet leaves mixed with torn paper and mabby just a little wood trown in (say a 4 ince round high pile will do .
at the other end (o box is accutly fish tanked shaped Recktangeled is a better description ( but any good size will do )
anyway at the other end put ooo say ten ice cubes .
so now we have a fish tank say 3 feett high by 2 foot wide buy three feet long with ice at one end and the leaves paper wood mix pile at the othere let it sit for 15 minits (must be inside no other air currents to work well) then light the other end (burning the wet leaves paperwood mix and watch what happens next .
the leaves being wet will produce much smoke .
but during that 15 minit wate the air inside the tank got cooled buy the ice at the other end of the tank so now we have a fire heating the air with acold layer on TOP of a warm new RAPILDY expanding layer in a retangel box .
you have just craeted a frount the warm air being drawn to the cold air wanting to rise and if all goes well youl get a real real cool 2 foot talll TORNADO at the cold end (you can see it tahts why you made a smoke fire and not justa plan one ) a man made tornado its realy cool.
ps have done this it was a 9th grade science class experment my teacher showd us .
the point to all this its the difference in temp or the spin of a planet that creats motion in air . there no magice way to get stangent air to move WITHOUT out side energy being applyed. ty have a nice day

(Note to moderators: Could you please move this thread back to the science and technology form where it belongs.)

I have just applied for a provisional patent on an ST design.


Application # 61526030 , Filing date 22-AUG-2011
Title: Midpoint Reversed Directionally Coupled Double Chamber Structure For The Natural Induction Of A Tornado.

This design is to good and to practical not to apply. Here is an excerpt from the application.

Description Of Preferred Embodiments

Figures 1 and 2 show the structure of the ST. The end views shown in these figures are what one would see if one were to bend up the ends of the structure shown in the center drawings. Referring to figure 1, item 1 is one of the two chambers. Item 2 is a channel connecting the two chambers and is responsible for the directional coupling. Item 3 is the mid reversal point where the channel (item 2) is moved form the top of the structure to the bottom. This is shown with the hidden lines (item 2) in figure 2.

There are no dimensions shown in these figures (1 and 2) because they can very widely and the ST will work. As a starting point, the channel (item 2) thickness should be equal to 1/6 of the chamber (Item 1) diameter. This structure will most likely be very long and very thin and will be coiled up to make a compact unit. As can be seen, the structure is the same on either side of the reversal point (item 3). It is simply flipped over at the reversal point. The halves have the same cross section for their entire lengths which makes it easy to fabricate through extrusion. This extrude able material will be referred to as “Directionally Coupled Double Chamber” material or DCDC or DC^2 (pronounced DC squared). Although figures 1 and 2 shows the to halves butted together like this, they could also be connected by Ying out the ends and then connecting the Y’s together. The Ying process will be explained in the “Tips for experimenters” section.

Figure 3 shows the air flow pattern inside the ST structure. The flow consists of 2 helical flow tornadoes. One in each chamber. The air of each tornado is fed into the other to form a loop. This is known as a positive feed back loop.

The flow arrows (Item 3) show the longitudinal component of the helical flow it the upper chamber while item 4 shows the same for the lower chamber. The flow arrows (Item 8) show the rotational component of the helical flow it the upper chamber while item 9 shows the same for the lower chamber. Notice that the helical flows are the same on both sides of the reversal point (item 10). The flow arrows (Item 6), on one side of the reversal point (item 10), shows the air flow through the directionally coupling channel transferring air from the helical flow in the upper chamber to that in the lower chamber. The flow arrows (Item 7), on the other side of the reversal point (item 10), shows the air flow through the directionally coupling channel transferring air from the helical flow in the lower chamber to that in the upper chamber. The flow arrows in sequence from items 3 to 6 to 4 to 7 show the path of the positive feed back air flow loop.

Referring to the illustration on the left of figure 4, the air flow arrow (item 2) is in the same direction as the tangential velocities at the top of the rotational component flow arrows (items 1 and 3) in each chamber. Putting the coupling channel at the top with these air flows as shown here will result in the rotational components forcing air into the channel from one side and sucking it out from the other in the direction of flow arrow Item 2. This one way forced coupling is what is being referred to as directional coupling. The illustration on the right of figure 4 shows another example of directional coupling.

The descriptions in this document deal with two equal size round cross section chambers containing a helical flow tornado in each chamber. This is not the only configuration for an ST. The chambers could be just about any size or shape and still allow for helical flow tornadoes to exist. If a channel connecting these chambers is placed in the right spot then directional coupling will occur. There could be more that just two helical flow tornado containing chambers. As long as the helical air flow in the chambers combined with the air flow through directional couplings between these chambers results in a positive feed back air flow loop, The ST structure in question is covered by this patent.

Referring back figure 3, If the ends of the lower chamber and the ends of the coupling channels are plugged as shown with item 5, The helical flow tornado in the upper chamber will suck in air at the input (item 2) and blow it out the output (item 1). The ST is an air pump utilizing the same natural mechanism behind a real tornado.

Hi ATSers

I am bumping this thread by letting you know that I have (at great expense) applied for a non provisional patent. The application was filed May 9 2012. The application number is 13/467,836 and its projected publication date is 02/28/2013.

As of this date, although this design has been published in the previous post for over a year, no one has debunked the design by building it, test it, and notifying me of unsatisfactory results.

Cool.. glad you updated.. got a prototype even a small one hooked up to a small generator that can even light a LED that we can look at?

Have you considered if you can get enough pressure using this with a tesla air turbine?

It looks like you have coiled up tubing that exits a pressurized air flow.
Wouldn't this in some way depend on the earth's rotation?
Where else would the power for the airflow arise?
Tesla patented a one way air flow device of a gas diode.
Always patent its a great idea.

Well I salute the OP in part, as his design attempt is a breath of fresh air with all the skeptics, liars and disinformants on here.

However, like another pointed out, his design is very complicated on paper to the 3d / 4d mind.
Maybe it's my right-brained ways, but when I make a thing, I use very minimal design notes and instead concentrate on building the thing and fixing / improving it on the fly.

I struggle to understand where the source airflow comes from (does the OP blow into it and seal the thing up?) to self-perpetuate.
Also, for an upscaled model, would it not require an initial 'burst' of airflow from a compressed air-tank or something?

If he made a video, on youtube, of the various in's and out's this, that and the other etc, people would copy and innovate the idea, maybe, just maybe we'd see a breakthrough.

You gotta get details off the paper and the abstract and into the world of substance.