Christianity and Tantra on Adultery, Celibacy, Chastity, Fornication, and Lust

Originally posted by ben91069
Orgasm is the joy of union in a physical way, it is not fornication. Fornication is the union of a man and woman outside of marriage, which has not yet occurred. Physical marriage is a type showing us what is to come. The flesh means nothing at all, the real union will occur when all is finished.

This is a false understanding that has been perpetuated for many years...

...and is one that is causing this humanity seemingly endless suffering.


Let us not confuse adultery with fornication as to justify our lust.



Here are the correct definitions:

Adultery

"What do we understand by adulterer?

When a man has sexual contact with another person that does not belong to him. When a man takes a woman and abandoned the one he already has, he is an adulterer.

Even more when he takes this woman just to transmute, He still is an adulterer. The man is charged with a type of energy from his wife and when he enters in sexual contact with another woman that isn’t his wife. These two equal energies are destroyed, an electrical shock comes afterwards and a cable is burned. Which? The fine thread that exist within the spinal column, through which the sulfur arises. When this thread is burned, the alchemist loses all degrees and fails in the great work. The work is very delicate.

This is why is written in the book of Revelation of Saint John that neither the fornicator nor adulterer will enter into the New Jerusalem."

- Samael Aun Weor, from the lecture "Harvest of the Sun"

Celibacy

An unmarried state.

Nowadays, this term is used incorrectly to refer to a state of renouncing sex.

Chastity

Alchemical transmutation of the sexual energy while renouncing animal desire and the orgasm.

Absolute chastity is perfectly clean and virtuous, free of lust and animal desire.

Fornication

Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. - 1 Corinthians 6:18

And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even. And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even. The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even. - Leviticus 15:16-18


"A fornicator is an individual who has intensely accustomed his genital organs to copulate (with orgasm). Yet, if the same individual changes his custom of copulation to the custom of no copulation, then he transforms himself into a chaste person.

We have as an example the astonishing case of Mary Magdalene, who was a famous prostitute. Mary Magdalene became the famous Saint Mary Magdalene, the repented prostitute. Mary Magdalene became the chaste disciple of Christ."

- The Revolution of Beelzebub

Lust

Lust One of the seven capital sins. Must be transmuted into its pure form: chastity, which is related to Venus (Uriel).


“There are three gates to self-destructive hell: lust, anger, and greed.” - Bhagavad Gita 16.21

“Desire never rests by enjoyment of lusts, as fire surely increases the more butter is offered to it.” - Laws of Manu 2.94

“In the region of Light live the beings who adore each other. In the region of Darkness live the souls who become inebriated with the chalice of lust, and who after getting drunk spill the cup. Those souls are consumed in the fire of their own lust.” - The Perfect Matrimony

“The origin of the sinful “I” lies in lust.” - The Perfect Matrimony

“Lust is sexual desire... Lust can be transmuted into love.” - Endocrinology & Criminology

“If we want to dissolve the “I,” we must start by terminating lust. If the water is taken away from the fish of the sea they will die. If the Luciferic Fire is taken away from our “I’s”, these psychological “I’s” will die. We must stop the nourishment from which they live.” - The Initiatic Path in the Arcana of Tarot and Kabbalah

“This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.” - Galatians 5:16

“We must eliminate even the most intimate roots of that which is called lust.”

- The Pistis Sophia Unveiled

See also:


Basic questions and answers related to the ancient science of sexual transmutation.





Regards




[edit on 24-5-2007 by Tamahu]

This is what Buddhism has to teach:

The Four Noble Truths

The Buddha’s first teachings.

1) All conditioned life is suffering.

2) All suffering is caused by ignorance.

3) Suffering can cease.

4) The eight-fold path leads to the end of suffering: right understanding, thought, speech, action, livelihood, effort, mindfulness and meditation.

The Four Seals

The four main principles of Buddhism:

all compounded phenomena are impermanent,

everything defiled (with ego-clinging) is suffering,

all phenomena are empty and devoid of a self-entity,

and nirvana is perfect peace.

The Four Noble Truths from a Tantric point of view:

The Four Noble Truths

Legend has it that the first teaching of the Buddha Shakyamuni revealed Four Truths to humanity.

He said, "It is through not understanding, not realizing four things, that I, Disciples, as well as you, had to wander so long through this round of rebirths. And what are these four things? They are the Noble Truth of Suffering, the Noble Truth of the Origin of Suffering, the Noble Truth of the Extinction of Suffering, the Noble Truth of the Path that leads to the Extinction of Suffering."

Vast teachings have been given expressing the nature of these Four Noble Truths; but perhaps none have been as direct as this short expression from The Aquarian Message by Samael Aun Weor:


First Truth: To have absolute consciousness of pain and bitterness.

Second Truth: Pain is the child of fornication, and whosoever spills the semen (reaches the orgasm) is a fornicator. This is a tremendous Truth!

Third Truth: We have an "I" that must be decapitated and dissolved in order to incarnate the Verb, the Christ.

Fourth Truth: We can only decapitate and dissolve the prince of this world, the "I," with the Arcanum A.Z.F.(White Tantrism).

Note: Tantra can be practiced without physical sexual contact(such as with the Jnanamudra and Mahamudra).


However, H.H. the Dalai Lama himself pointed out that the Karmamudra(White Sexual Magic) is necessary for the Completion Stage of Buddhist Tantra.

If fornication is wrong, then why are children born out of wedlock considered in Christianity as 'saved', pure, or clean or are they? I would be interested in hearing if you think children are saved or not by virtue of being innocent children (infants).

If you say they are pure, then the act that created them cannot be sinful. If God condemns it then the offspring would be like children born from sin.

Now if you understood what is meant by those types of sins, you wouldn't condemn those guilty of them just as Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman. If God really hated adultery, then Jesus would have agreed to stoning the woman at that very point.

What about Lot and his incestuous daughters? Not only were they guilty of fornication, but incest as well and I didn't hear God complaining a whole lot about it. Perhaps you are just reading the bible stories on the surface and not digging deep enough to understand the spiritual meanings.

[edit on 25-5-2007 by ben91069]