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posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by gravriderX

Aargh... I told myself I would avoid this section of the site... anyway, here goes...

Using junglejake's (and since you seem to agree with it) your definition of prejudice, you seem to have the same prejudice as racists have against other races, only instead of being directed at a race, it is directed at a political party. You call republicans "neo-nazis" when I and the majority of republicans have NO TIES with ANY nazi terrorist group and DO NOT share the same ideals? What's wrong with you??? Most people (including me) take that as a personal insult when you accuse someone of being a part of a terrorist group.

[Edited on 6-1-2004 by gravriderX]


Well, may I suggest that you cleanse yourself of the Spirit of Cain and cut all ties to the goose-stepping neo-nazi repugnant party. It will do your soul some good. I mean, even I can't help you when God is finally fed up with you repugnants and pitches you down to the fires of Hell:shk:




posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 05:51 PM
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There is a huge difference between being racist, and prejudice.

You, colonel, are both. We all knew you were prejudice against Republicans/Conservatives. I just want to point out your racism.



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by Colonel
Well, may I suggest that you cleanse yourself of the Spirit of Cain and cut all ties to the goose-stepping neo-nazi repugnant party. It will do your soul some good. I mean, even I can't help you when God is finally fed up with you repugnants and pitches you down to the fires of Hell:shk:


Dam Colonel you sound like a Preacher maybe you should get your self a tent and some bibles and head for the open road. Oh yea don't forget the hats to pass around to put money in.



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 06:03 PM
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The neo-nazi takes an extreme right wing view...it's still right wing so the seeds of their views lay deep within those of right wingers...not all right wingers take it to that extreme so I don't agree with Colonel. But, it would do some of you some good to think about your views and the policy you support.

The extreme right winger with mainstream appeal is Pat Buchanan. His views are racist there is no denying that and he is a right winger...like I said some of you might not be as extreme but that doesn't go for parts of your political party. Specially those that hold the views of the Dixicrats that joined your ranks during civil rights. Why else do you supposed that switched...it wasn't for the benefits.



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 06:10 PM
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Patrick J. Buchanan Bashes Bush all the time. He even thinks Bush has gone to far and screwed this country up. Some of his views may be warped in my opinion but he is still a Patriot and loves this country and believes in the Bill of Rights something Bush republicans forgot.

www.wnd.com...



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 06:29 PM
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OMG--you did not just take up for that racist. Warped? Do you have any idea? Just because he opposed the war doesn't make him any less of a racist. He calls this country, my country, a white christian anglo-saxon nation and he wants to keep it that way...code talk for white supremacy and subjugation. His hate doesn't stop at folk of color, no--he hates jews and gays too. Please, he's poster child of the radical right. The only reason he opposes the war is because he believes we did for the jews.

I agree with him sometimes specially on trade...its scary because his views are extreme--you have to be careful who you align yourself with. Just because you agree with some of the things he says doesn't make him a good guy or a patroit--well, maybe one for white america but america is not just white.



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 10:15 PM
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I read most of his new articles I havent read his racism never even seen it. That doesnt mean it doesnt exist like I said I am no expert on him. I agree with him on a lot of his positions like trade issues and other stuff like gun control and of course Bush. I had no idea he was a racist..



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 10:21 PM
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But then why should I be surprised like I am. Conservatives are what they are and they dont try to hide it. Thats why their base is so strong. There supporters really know they are supporting a racist and cut throat policies towards the unfortunate of America. Btw I also like his views on illegal immigrants.



posted on Jan, 6 2004 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by VeeTwin
There is a huge difference between being racist, and prejudice.

You, colonel, are both. We all knew you were prejudice against Republicans/Conservatives. I just want to point out your racism.


You don't read so well do you. Didn't I just explain that it is impossible for blacks to be racist in America? Please read the past dialogue with me and Jungle Jake. Slowly, if you must. Try ennuciating the words for comphrehension.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL

Originally posted by Colonel
Well, may I suggest that you cleanse yourself of the Spirit of Cain and cut all ties to the goose-stepping neo-nazi repugnant party. It will do your soul some good. I mean, even I can't help you when God is finally fed up with you repugnants and pitches you down to the fires of Hell:shk:


Dam Colonel you sound like a Preacher maybe you should get your self a tent and some bibles and head for the open road. Oh yea don't forget the hats to pass around to put money in.



Or as the repugnant would say: "PRAISE JAYZUS!"



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 08:46 AM
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Colonel
What black man or ANY minority in America thought he was of superior breed in America? I mean, seriously, I think most of us were just trying to make it to the next day! Now, on the ohter hand, what race in America exhibited the qualities described in the definiton? You know the answer.


BLIND! OMFG! There are plenty of black people in America who think they are superior. Anyway, look at the second definition, that one counts too. ANY racial prejudice, ANY! I meet people all the time who think they are superior. What about the Black Panthers? Didn't they advocate racial superiority? Christ man, wake up. You just shoved both feet in your mouth at the same time.(amazing)



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 08:56 AM
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Gotta agree with that! What is it about this Nation of Islam crap and creating a nation for Black-Americans?

I hope they mean in Africa?



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by Saphronia
The neo-nazi takes an extreme right wing view...it's still right wing so the seeds of their views lay deep within those of right wingers...not all right wingers take it to that extreme so I don't agree with Colonel. But, it would do some of you some good to think about your views and the policy you support.

The extreme right winger with mainstream appeal is Pat Buchanan. His views are racist there is no denying that and he is a right winger...like I said some of you might not be as extreme but that doesn't go for parts of your political party. Specially those that hold the views of the Dixicrats that joined your ranks during civil rights. Why else do you supposed that switched...it wasn't for the benefits.


I agree with the fact that some take their right-wing views too far, but the same goes for left-wingers. I don't want to end up in a socialist country the same as I don't want to end up in a dictatorship.(which I consider close to the same. A balance between freetrade and social government programs must be kept.(It's great to be a moderate)



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by joehayner

BLIND! OMFG! There are plenty of black people in America who think they are superior.

Really? Like who?

What about the Black Panthers? Didn't they advocate racial superiority?

No, they demanded their civil liberties and an end to the murderous police state in black America and they would do so with the force of arms. No racial superiority there.

See, people of the world, the problems that we have in AMerica today are mainly caused by the "S-Factor." (The Stupid Factor) Yes, you were right all those times. Americans are stupid and this last post from joehayner was just an example. We don't even know our own history.

Pity me. This is what I have to put up with daily.



[Edited on 7-1-2004 by Colonel]



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel
No, they demanded their civil liberties and an end to the murderous police state in black America and they would do so with the force of arms. No racial superiority there.

See, people of the world, the problems that we have i AMerica today are mainly caused by the "S-Factor." (The Stupid Factor) Yes, you were right all those times. Americans are stupid and this last post from joehayner was just an example. We don't even know our own history.

Pity me. This is what I have tp put up with daily.


????
You're accusing me of not knowing my history? You're right, that's what they started as, a civil liberties group, but turned into a racial superiority group. I know, for a fact that they wanted a nation of Islam, and advocated racial superiority. The same thing goes for some white citizens durring that time period.(KKK) Don't call me stupid, not when I'm closer to right than you.
(BTW, nice spin Colonel)

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by joehayner]



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by joehayner
????
You're accusing me of not knowing my history? You're right, that's what they started as, a civil liberties group, but turned into a racial superiority group. I know, for a fact that they wanted a nation of Islam, and advocated racial superiority. The same thing goes for some white citizens durring that time period.(KKK) Don't call me stupid, not when I'm closer to right than you.

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by joehayner]


Talk about Spin?!?!?!?!?!



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by joehayner
????
You're accusing me of not knowing my history? You're right, that's what they started as, a civil liberties group, but turned into a racial superiority group. I know, for a fact that they wanted a nation of Islam, and advocated racial superiority. The same thing goes for some white citizens durring that time period.(KKK) Don't call me stupid, not when I'm closer to right than you.

[Edited on 7-1-2004 by joehayner]


Talk about Spin?!?!?!?!?!




Better talk about how you continue to ignore only what you wish to ignore besides what the historical facts or truths are!




regards
seekerof



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 10:38 AM
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Colonel,(sigh)

Are you trying to say that in the WHOLE country of America, there is not even ONE person who believes black people are superior? Even if you're right, which your not, the second definition fits you perfectly. You show plenty of racial discrimination in the fact that you generalize white people as being the only racists. You cannot generalize a particular group, there are ALWAYS exceptions, ALWAYS! I could say that black people are all gangsters and criminals, but I'd be very wrong. I could say that all democrats are communists, I'd still be wrong. White people can't play sports, wrong. All Asian people look the same, wrong. Only whites are racist, also wrong. But if I said that you, as a single person(no grouping involved) are a racist and (though intelligent) have no proof behind your generalizations. I have never used a racial slur, or generalized people, because I do realize that there are exceptions. I have also never called you stupid, I respect you intelligence, but ignorance and intelligence are two very(VERY) different things. I would like to respectfully ask you to drop the name calling and concentrate on the issue we're discussing.

It is impossible for it to be true. Does anyone else want to step in and tell him? I bet there are plenty of Libs or Dems on this site who could tell you I'm right on this issue. They may not agree that my political beliefs are right, but I am right about the black panthers, and I am right about you. Though, I doubt that any of them would tell you because they don't want to point out the mistakes of one of their best political debaters.

It doesn't have to match both definitions to be racism.

Have a nice day.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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I will remind you again that I am not a right-winger. I have some conservative ideals, but I remain mostly moderate. What the country needs is a good balance of liberal/conservative ideology. I don't think the republcans are right on everything, nor do I think that of the democrats. It's people like you, Colonel, who allow the racial and religious gap to widen. I am all for equality, I believe race, sex, and religion should play NO part in any election. I think it is just plain wrong that you hate republicans/conservatives. I'm sure that there are some racist people in their party, just like there are some racist liberals.(you) Going too far right is wrong, but so is going too far left.(think about rome) Don't ignore the facts, don't ignore logic.

Your view of the world is very narrow and twisted. I hope that someday you will see this.

BTW, are you Muslim?(just out of curiosity, no ploy intended) I can tell you right now that I'm not a Christian.



posted on Jan, 7 2004 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by joehayner

Even if you're right, which your not, the second definition fits you perfectly. You show plenty of racial discrimination in the fact that you generalize white people as being the only racists.

Talk about spin. No, Inever said that. I do generalize repugnants as racists tho. See, the repugnant party has a plethora of racist leaders and if you support these people then to me you identify with them and I will cast you with the same label.



I would like to respectfully ask you to drop the name calling and concentrate on the issue we're discussing.

You caught me in a bad mood (what's new). I'm afraid that I cannot comply.



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