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reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 10:24 AM by Byrd
You get the same effect with veternarians and animals ... and any system that deals with living organisms.

We're incredibly complex. The variations are huge (my nerves are not in the right place as most people's, so the dentist has to inject more drugs to numb an area for me. Some people have their hearts on the left side of the body, others on the right. Some people are born with a resistance to certain drugs (I clear out painkillers pretty fast from my system) and others are overly sensitive to it. And we all describe and feel pain differently (I walked around with a broken (smashed) wrist for 4 days before it occurred to me that something was wrong.)

The actual number of diseases and conditions a person can suffer from (singly or in combination with other conditions and diseases) is well over a million. Over 250 organisms are known to cause foodborne illnesses. However, many different organisms cause similar symptoms, especially diarrhea, abdominal cramps, and nausea. There is so much overlap that it is rarely possible to say which microbe is likely to be causing a given illness unless laboratory tests are done to identify the microbe, or unless the illness is part of a recognized outbreak.


So... how good do YOU think you'd be at telling (for example) the differece in symptoms caused by these common foodborne illnesses: www.fightbac.org...

Remember that docs can tell the difference between these and appendicitis and a lot of other things.

If you think it's that easy, start taking some courses in medicine. I think you'll change your mind.

(for the record, I did have some med school courses.)


reply posted on 17-1-2004 @ 09:45 AM by sanctum
Originally posted by DeusEx
Sweet jesus....of course it's educated guesswork. People aren't cars. You can't just crack them open and take a look anytime you want. Also, patients are idiots... as shown by the mere existence of this thread. You go into a doctor's office, list three different symptoms in a generic manner and expect them to pop out an exact diagnosis? Okay, so your stomach hurts. What kind of pain is it? How long have you had it? What's your medical history like? What have you been eating lately? What are your genes like? Are you allergic to anything? What kinds of drugs are you on?

Christ, the word diagnosis means an educated guess. So, before you walk around badmouthing doctors, why don't you think about every possibel way you could screw yourself up, be screwed up, or whine about something. Then, imagine about another thousand things that can go wrong that you didn't know about. Throw in individual variations based on allergy, resistance and basic human endurance. Now, try not to screw up. Just like anyone else, doctors screw up every now and again. The only problem is that people die when they do. Next tiem you whine about a doctor being wrong about something, think about how many times they were right despite patient incompetence.

Geez, I need an asprin...

DE

[Edited on 17-1-2004 by DeusEx]



So DE,
IF, (i sincerely hope not) u wer'e to be raced to ER as a
result of an 'un-forseen circumstance', and subsequent
admission, shall i therefore presume that you too are
an idiot?





reply posted on 17-1-2004 @ 11:22 PM by razorbackhater
this link says it all mercola.com...

You must admit, some DR's should not be practicing medicine.

we took our three year old to a the doctors office because he was ill, our family doctor suspected that he may have a bit of fluid in his lungs and to watch him carefully. my son did not get any better after a few days, so as we were instructed by our family doctor we took him to the ER. the doctor was called in from his home and when he got there he had three patients waiting on him. he came into our room and we told him what our doctor said in regards to having fluid in his lungs and he didn't even listen to him after i told the DR of my concern's about my son possibly having pneumonia. this DR said oh he just has bronchitis and wrote us a prescription. my mother is a nurse and she listened to my son before we took him to the er and she was very concerned. are you telling me a DR would not at least have the chest of a three year old x-rayed when he is rattling like crazy? no all this DR was concerned with was getting his sorry ass back home, because after twenty minutes of being there, and seeing three patients, he was trying to run us over as we were driving from the hospital. needless to say my son was in the hospital for a week and a half with full blown pneumonia the very next day. I was lucky enough to run into him while we were in the hospital, lets just say everyone in that hospital knew I was pissed and he conveniently ran away with his tail between his legs.

Being a DR doesn't mean crap, hell I can remember things and order test too.
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