What Hijackers? Show me please., page 3
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 06:34 PM by deltaboy
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SAS: How did Ramzi and Khalid handle those reports about the peculiar behavior of some of the members of the group-that some of them hit the striptease clubs before the operation, and drank alcohol or had girl friends? Did you ask Ramzi and Khalid about that?

YF: Yes, quite early on and Ramzi simply denied it. He said those reports were fabrications. As for Ziad Al-Jarrah having a Turkish girl friend, Ramzi insisted they were married. But that was strange because they had met in another city in Germany and moved to Hamburg together, where Ramzi met Ziad, but Ziad and his girl friend never actually lived together. In fact when I visited Ziad's family in Lebanon, they not only denied that Ziad was married but they absolutely insisted he had girl friends and liked to go to the clubs in an effort to convince me that their son couldn't conceivably be mixed up with a band of religious fanatics. And Arne Kruithof, the owner and manager of the flight school, Florida Flight International, where Ziad learned how to be a pilot, was very fond of Ziad and spoke highly of him and he said they use to go out together. So I asked Kruithof if Ziad would drink and he said yes he would order a pint of beer.

SAS: My own instinct is that just as they inhabited a psychic or psychological state that convinced them they were reliving the Prophet's experiences at the very moment they were about to violate both the very strict shari'a ("Islamic law") rules governing war and the Prophet's canonic sayings condemning the killing of civilians, so they must have assumed that the purifying nature of their approaching martyrdom gave them some sort of cosmic dispensation.

YF: Speaking of dispensation and states of mind, when I was in Karachi waiting to meet up with Ramzi and Khalid, my contact called me at the hotel I was staying at to arrange a meeting time. Since it was Friday I suggested we meet in the mosque either before or after the prayer and he said to me "No, no, no! Don't leave the hotel." And I said, "But it's Friday and there are the prayers," and he said, "No, no, no! God will forgive you." But I think their sense of dispensation was derived directly from the idea that they were engaged in jihad ("holy struggle"). Now you know, in jihad there are certain liberties allowed.


Well well, in Jihad, the ends justify the means.


reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 07:29 PM by GwionX
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
This is by far the most prestine example of a sheep thinking that since he is in the majority, he must be right. Perhaps you are an intellectual, yet you are so prideful that you refused to believe that the wool is covering your comprehension.


If I am such a sheep as you say, then why am I here? Why am I doing research on this subject? Wouldn't I be watching Deal or No Deal, or American Idol, and just mindlessly consume whatever is put in front of me?

Would I be able to formulate an opposing argument building on facts from a variety of different sources..if I were a sheep?

Wouldn't my response have been more like--"Nu-Uh cause I seen the Hijackers on TeeVee"

I think the only reason you feel I am a sheep is because I have a differing opinion than you. You want to be surrounded by people that don't disagree with you...you want..well, Sheep.

I stand by everything SteveR says and I happen to have a pretty high IQ. Are you that stubborn that you can't see objectively?

Just asking.


I don't think it has anything to do with your IQ, nor does it really have anything to do with me being subborn. It has to do with facts, crediblity, and the origin of these theories for me.

I do not blindly trust Alex Jones, Dylan Avery, Steven Jones..

I don't trust --THIS GUY:

Theirry Meyssan a French radical that originally came up with the Pentagon "no Plane" theory. Why would I believe him? Why would you?

Or THIS GUY:

Eric Huffschmid- a neo-nazi nutbasket that originally came up with the WTC demolition theory. Why would I believe him? Why would you?

Yeah... Im the sheep, a sheep that ain't falling for these lies, and half truths.


reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 08:15 PM by ThatsJustWeird
Hijackers set off security alarms
Not sure how you do that if you don't exist

Pretty good link/timeline concerning the hijackers (going back to the 1970s)


reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 08:41 PM by Blaine91555
Link to quote.


The Federal Bureau of Investigation is today releasing 19 photographs of individuals believed to be the hijackers of the four airliners that crashed on September 11, 2001, into the World Trade Center in New York, the Pentagon, and in Stony Creek Township, Pennsylvania. The FBI requests the public's assistance in obtaining more information about these individuals.

It should be noted that attempts to confirm the true identities of these individuals are still under way. The FBI asks anyone who has ever seen or has information about these individuals to immediately contact the nearest FBI office


The list of the possible high-jackers was released on 9/27/07. The FBI even made sure a disclaimer was apparent so everyone would understand that it was yet to be confirmed. See the above quote.

Here is a quote from Hufschmid:


As I have said many times during the past few years, I think almost every 9/11 investigator is a Zionist or one of their agents, and that they are pretending to be investigators in order to confuse you, send you down the wrong path, and lure you away from people like me.


and another:


An investigation of the Holocaust will let us know whether the Zionists tricked the the world into a gigantic war, and then fabricated Holocaust stories in order to extort money, terrorize other Jews, and justify the abuse of Germany.


and another:


There is no evidence to support the official story of the Holocaust. The evidence shows that almost all of the deaths at the prison camps were due to typhus and a shortage of food in the final year of the war. This is why the dead bodies are so skinny.



After spending time reading this mans stuff I feel dirty for even being on the same Internet as his site.



reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 09:49 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Hijackers set off security alarms
Not sure how you do that if you don't exist

Pretty good link/timeline concerning the hijackers (going back to the 1970s)


That timeline is very helpful... to you. As i said before, if it was an inside job, they didn't completely screw it up. Listen, on paper the plan worked out EVERY TIME. When the situation arises, then errors happen, which is what we're discussing... the errors. Why do you refute errors with the part of the plan that was executed accordingly?

BTW, I couldn't get passed this part:

Context of '(7:15 a.m.-7:18 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Hijack Suspects Set Off Airport Alarms; Allowed to Board Anyway'


You see, that WAS part of the plan...

AAC

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