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Concentration Camps in the US are Beginning to Alarm Some Jews


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reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 09:52 AM by SkipShipman


This goes back to the post "A Voice From Nazi Germany A Survivor shows parallels between Naziism and trends in the U.S."

I just thought to consider the Pogrom within historical studies.

Although that seems very unlikely, it might proceed during wealth consolidation when group loyalties vanish. Is this historically a valid point?

It is such a sad story but one must exist within compassion to prevent such things. At the same time there is the deepest wish that all people involved in the current unidirectional aspects of class warfare be astute and act responsibly despite their potential for gains at too high a price. While such class warfare is a fact of life for hundreds of years due to compound interest, for once in an age of technological marvels such prowess must be channeled into creation of a sound economic system.

The camps are all about money and power, and the illusion that real power proceeds from undo force. It may seem to be the case within some Malthusian theory of social Darwinism, but wouldn't the elite proceed better with a more rational outcome? In any event the justification for camps in their minds appears to be the outcome of their worst case scenarios for us, and their insane wish to have money rather than extending the case for abundant life to actually earn it. What are they planning that is so terrible that they would need such camps? Their own loss of wealth is astounding but based on old plans, programs and projects that seemed to work in the past, mostly the middle ages.



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reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 11:33 PM by Justin Oldham


I can think of only one reason for the U.s. government to ever consider such camps. If they were worried about a future revolt, they might feel the need to take such precautions. Let's remember that a revolt is not the same thing as a revolution.

As domestic terrorism increases, they'll be tempted to exploit it. Trouble is, they'll also be courting disaster by trying. As the terror cells flourish, we will also see the creation of patriotic groups that see no choice but to arm for a conflict that is yet to come. As I have said in other threads, it'll be hard to tell the terrorists from the patriots.

Let me be clear about one thing. I'm speculating. I don't think there is a stingle strand of barbed wire up right now just waitiing for "guests." Even so, it's worth noting that this could happen within the next ten years. I'd live to be wrong about this, I really would.



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reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 02:53 AM by theindependentjournal


Go to the Halliburton Site and read their own press release about being tapped to build them, then look at the senate funding bill for them, then tell us they do not exist...

halliburton site
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reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 04:23 AM by Muaddib


.... It is for immigration facilities...

You know, for people that come to the U.S., in one way or another....which still does happen... and the government has to do some checking on them to make sure they are not criminals, or have any diseases, or that they have someone in the states that will take care of them until they get on their own feet...

One of my cousins came from Cuba not that long ago,he got in a boat and got to U.S. soil somewhere in the Keys, and noone in our family knew he was doing that. He had been talking about it for a couple of years, but we thought we made him understand the risks at sea were too great, but still he did it.

He was taken to the detention center in Krome Miami, and he told me that place was packed. He had to actually sleep in the floor because there is no space. He passed all the security, and was accepted as a legal resident since he never had any criminal record, nor did he have any diseases.

So my question is this...why is it not possible at all, knowing that such detention centers as the one in Krome are so packed, that these facilities are just as that website says, "for immigration"?...

Again, from that same site..


The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.

Link

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reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 04:36 AM by Muaddib


Here is a little something for some of you to chew on.


Krome crowd raises concerns
Immigrants held at Krome say they're having to sleep on cots crowded around bunk beds and that their health and safety are being jeopardized because the federal detention center is holding one-fifth more people than its stated capacity -- a situation one detainee called ``a living hell.''

www.miamicomputerrepair.net...



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reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 04:41 AM by Muaddib



Originally posted by skid


"The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."



- U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994


Could you show us the link to that statement made by Gonzalez?

I did a search and the only relibale site that came up, but which had nothing to do with Gonzalez claming what you posted is this.

www.parliament.nsw.gov.au...

If a U.S. representative would have really said that I think it would have made world news, not just in the U.S.



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 01:28 PM by rm8471


The question really is not are these concentration camps real, because they can be made, if not already done.

The question really is one of what kind of integrity does our government have, or lack, and would they be inclined to do this?

The answer, sadly, is YES, if it SUITED THEM.

We did it to the Japanese who were LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS during WWII.

We took them, locked them up in camps, pulled them out of their homes. They lost everything - house, businesses, all, because we just yanked them out of their lives and imprisoned them.

And that was way back then.

So, would they do it now, if it suited them? ABSOLUTELY.

Have they done it at all, nowadays? YES!

Just look at the place (www.prisonplanet.com reported on it) that the "protesters" were "held" at during the NYC Republican convention.

A fortress with chain link fencing and barbed wires.

If that isn't a concentration camp, then what is it?



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 06:28 PM by Justin Oldham


As long as we understand that this is still possible in america, we can be on hte lookout for it. Understanding HOW it could happen allows us to know what we should be looking for. Vigilance is the price of freedom.



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 09:46 PM by the_sentinal


Are we NOW under Martial Law?

I would urge anyone who is interested in this topic and any further disscussion of it to read this exerpt of a web page I found dealing with the threat of a future US dictatorship and implementation of these camps.


Okay, what does it take to declare Martial Law in America? It takes 1) a declared state of emergency, 2) a readied "homeland" paramilitary system to enforce the powers of Martial Law, and 3) one signature of the one person who has the authority to make the declaration.So, let's get this straight. 1) In 1933, America's WAS declared into a state of emergency, which has never been rescinded. We ARE PRESENTLY in a declared state of emergency (and have been for nearly 75 years), 2) multiple paramilitary systems have been raised, readied, operating, and practicing — beginning in 1974, and 3) the president of the united States need only sign a piece of paper to END the constitutional government of the united States.

On May 9, 2007, our president signed a National Security Presidential Directive — an unconstitutional piece of paper — which gave to himself the powers of total dictatorship over the entire nation (NSPD-51) and CONgress has no say so whatsoever. Can you say "total dictatorship?"


But more to the point, the question we must ask ourselves is this:Are we NOW under Martial Law?


Some will say that this is a ridiculous question but after reading the link you might think it more valid.

www.renewamerica.us...




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reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 11:11 PM by PONCE

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Remember that all this camps have been going up for the past ten years but now they are going up faster and with those building the capms getting a contract for 350 millions fiats.

I can only hope that my bunk will be close to the bathroom, I get up a lot at night.



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reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 11:11 PM by PONCE


Remember that all this camps have been going up for the past ten years but now they are going up faster and with those building the capms getting a contract for 350 millions fiats.

I can only hope that my bunk will be close to the bathroom, I get up a lot at night.



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reply posted on 5-6-2007 @ 11:11 PM by PONCE


Remember that all this camps have been going up for the past ten years but now they are going up faster and with those building the capms getting a contract for 350 millions fiats.

I can only hope that my bunk will be close to the bathroom, I get up a lot at night.



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