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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 08:44 PM by the_sentinal
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I know not every one is going to buy into this logic, for some it's more comforting to bury your head in the sand and pretend that these things are
not happening, or the possibilities of these thing happening are just not real.
It's just easier to believe it's just a conspiracy theory nothing more, but to those who have seen certain evidences it becomes all too real.
Mr. Sea elaborated on the 'RED and BLUE Lists' and what they mean. The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for
martial law
are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but later, within 6 weeks of martial law declaration.
When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night, probably around 4 am
and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point.
There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter and fly you to one of 38 cities
where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. You may be taken straight to a red camp and executed.
At some point, martial law will be declared. Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus
to have a trial by jury is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail. At this point, the
BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time,
the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA.
The black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can
jam cell phones and CBs while they're executing black operations missions. This means
that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you. In June of 1996, an
FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and
those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List
would be picked up 'within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.' It will work if the
300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY HERE can get the guns.

What's interesting about this story is the CIA agent who found his own name on a list of people to be detained and exterminated, those who dont give
up their guns seem to be on the "red list" The part that really seems crazy is the 300,000 russian troops it says are already here.
I dont know whether I believe all of this or not but it would seem rather stupin not to at least consider the possibility of it being true.
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 08:53 PM by osram
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I wonder if anyone knows more about the economic developments towards railroads in the USA.
About a week ago I saw some german news-report tidbit about a german or european investor doing investments into US railroad-businesses.
I really don't remember his name, and don't know where he was from exactly.
But i really doubt that the US are building up railroad economies because of environmental reasons. In Switzerland we have quite some cargo being
moved by railways because of the traffic-problem caused by regular trucks.
I really can't imagine a similar development in the US.
This massive economic development only leaves to one conclusion imho, they know about the detention camps and therefore, financial opportunity.
Can anyone contribute with financial information about this railroad/camp situation?
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 10:18 PM by Muaddib
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Originally posted by infinite
SOME camps were proved to be a hoax.
Others have been documented, with photo evidence too. But you are right, quite a few locations have been disproved. 
What proof? do you have the links to the old threads? both the members who found the hoaxes and the ones that are supposed to exist.
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 10:39 PM by Muaddib
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Sentinal, can you provide a link to that last excerpt you gave. The only thing I found were sites I never heard of.
Anyways, sorry but I have to say that what is claimed in that excerpt you gave is a sick hoax.
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 10:40 PM by the_sentinal
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Originally posted by Dock6
Am I the only person to have known jews who lived in Europe during WW2 and who claim to have no personal experience or awareness of the atrocities
which now feature so luridly in the media?
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Yes, your one of the very few who can say that WWII atrocities didn't effect your family or friends, I guess you can be thankful for that. My mother
once told me that the smell of human bodies burning has a distinctive smell (horrible)........ she said once you smell it, you'll never forget it.
My mother never wanted to talk about her experiences she had two sisters one of the two would talk about them, the other two would get mad at her and
say she was crazy at time. My take on this was that some of their experiences were just too horrific too relive in telling. I dont presume to know the
situation with your family but perhaps those that could tell of atrocities would just rather deny them than relive the pain of telling them. It was
just that way for some of my family.
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 10:48 PM by the_sentinal
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Originally posted by Muaddib
Anyways, sorry but I have to say that what is claimed in that excerpt you gave is a sick hoax.

That last excerpt was exactly how many believe the martial law senerio will play out, I'm not sure where this guy is getting his information but he
sure seems to have some colorful insight. huh. I'll be back in a minute with it.
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 11:15 PM by the_sentinal
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Ok Muaddib, Here is the link you asked for but let me be the first to warn you that it's a religious web site which probably automatically deems it
pure bunk in some people's opinion.
revlu.com...
The weird thing about this page, with the descriptions of the "Red" and "Blue" list's is the video posted by infinite showing the "Red" zone
signs is it just a coincidence or is there an element of truth to this story??
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reply posted on 22-5-2007 @ 11:41 PM by Muaddib
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Originally posted by the_sentinal
Ok Muaddib, Here is the link you asked for but let me be the first to warn you that it's a religious web site which probably automatically deems it
pure bunk in some people's opinion. 
It is not that it is a religious site that immediately debunks it, but it is the claims in it.
Originally posted by the_sentinal
The weird thing about this page, with the descriptions of the "Red" and "Blue" list's is the video posted by infinite showing the "Red" zone
signs is it just a coincidence or is there an element of truth to this story??

First, in that video they do say "it is an anthrax site".
Second of all, if there was any sinister reason for that place, the people filming would have been detained, or not even allowed to be there, yet they
freely videotaped the place and made any and every comment they wanted to make. That in itself says a lot.
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 02:29 AM by the_sentinal
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Ok, here's another twist to this story, if anyone has heard anything about this chime right in.
 A Pastor has come forward to blow the whistle on a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become
secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for a declaration of martial law, property and firearm
seizures, and forced relocation.
I go to church regularly, and so I will ask the pastor of my church if he has any knowledge of this plan by FEMA.
www.prisonplanet.com...
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 08:13 AM by osram
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I guess that's a "No.", to my question? :F
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 12:30 PM by loss_by_default
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I had acually heard my friend saying he saw an article about the camps and to come here and check it out. Apperently, from what he said, there is one
in here in arkansas. I wouldn't mind going and checking it out.
Im still digging through the forums.
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 12:59 PM by Vitchilo
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 01:08 PM by Fennec
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Israel is a country with a big demographic problem: Its population remains stable and the palestinian population is growing much quicker. So the war
against palestinians (yes, for me there is a war) will be lost by virtually lack of people in Israel and too much in Palestin.
I think the Israelis are very aware of this fact, and thus try to make more jew people make their "Aliyah" (going to Israel, the holy jew land's)
to stop this demographic loss. And some irresponsible people can be tempted to play with the fear of nazism and antisemitism in that purpose...
For a lot of reasons (political, geopolitical, religious, cultural, historical), USA is very close to Israel and support the country fully.
By the way, USA own some concentration camps, but for constitutionnal reasons they are abroad the country. Guantanamo is a good example. If you're
not a nusty islamic integrist captured in Iraq or Afghanistan on a battlefield, i guess you got nothing to be affraid of...
Originally posted by Dock6
In fact, many of the elderly jews remember WW2 with seeming fondness. They speak of the wonderful night-life and the cosmopolitan atmosphere and
cameraderie -- which they miss and often think back to. I've seen their photos, in which the women were very smartly attired in furs and the men in
Astrakan. The children were also very smartly dressed and appeared very well fed. They were born in 1943 and 1945 respectively, which was when the
war --- particularly for jews if today's claims are to be believed --- was at its height and worst. To be remembered is the fact none of these
people possessed wealth or influence -- they were just ordinary citizens. None of their personal history conforms with the horror stories with which
we're regaled today.

Oh god, you are sooo wrong that it's frightening! Very well fed? Well dressed??? Don't you guy know that their was a huge lack of food in Europe
(and not only for the jews, everybody including germans) till the beginning of the 50's? Please come to Europe and visite my own relatives (wich are
not jews), they will kick you for saying so irresponsibles, irrelevant and injurious comments!
40 to 60 MILLIONS peoples died on my continent, from war, lack of food and medical cares. And you pretend from some lazy interview to know this truth
better than us European? Every familly, every village in Europe (and one could include north africa and asia too) paid a heavy price for this
war...Shame, shame on you! I blame you for being so stupid for it means these people died for nothing else than a w....er blabering on forum complete
nonsenses!!!!!
I'm stopping now, for i'm furious and got nothing more to tell you that giving you names. Maybe it's because i know WHY your kind of guy 
says that kind of stuff  .
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 11:10 PM by jhamende
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Like I said before this is nutso. I read Justin Oldham's "The Shape of Things to Come" and its more nutso bs. Do you think these people wake up
everyday and when their children ask what they are going to do today that the parents say "try to take over the world" muhahahaha. Do these parents
recruit there children to their secret rule the world society? Seriously dude, your right about calling yourself a fiction writer. Your "Centralized
Power" is feasible but as for "The Shape of Things to Come" its pure fabrication and you've built a house of cards. You relate all of these
different events (lots of events) as if they are a grand scheme. You use these things to support why you believe this concentration camp thing is
possible because of the shadow government. But you make it seem like Dr. Evil is in control with his agenda predetermined 100 years ago then he was
cryogenically frozen. Not only that but i'm not sure how you come to some of the conclusions you come to nor do you explain it. So with this
concentration camp crap is another house of cards. By the way did you guys see the newspaper dispenser outside of the little building in the video?
pffttttt you can have a newspaper for one mi.. wait one billion dollars!!!! muhahahaha
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 11:31 PM by Justin Oldham
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With all due respect, I'm on record in this thread as having said that I do not think that there is anything to this concentration camp thing. I'm
not sure how you arrived at your conclusion, but the last time I checked...I'm still of the opinion that there is nothing to this story.
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 11:42 PM by jhamende
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Originally posted by Justin Oldham
I am not convinced that they are phsyically here now, but I am convinced that the laws and policies do now exhist to bring them in to being with the
stroke of a pen. I think that the next President may be the one to actually do it. I think that when it happens, it may actually be accepted by the
majority. 
Well I checked your position and you never stated that there is nothing to this story. All you did is add supporting evidence that it may happen and
why. Thats why I came to this conclusion. So where are you on the record saying there is nothing to this??
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reply posted on 23-5-2007 @ 11:48 PM by Justin Oldham
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To be precise, on the last page of posts I said, "I am not convinced that they are phsyically here now, but I am convinced that the laws and policies
do now exhist to bring them in to being with the stroke of a pen. I think that the next President may be the one to actually do it. I think that when
it happens, it may actually be accepted by the majority."
To be specifically precise, I said that those camps do not exhist at this time. They could exhist in the future, but they do not exhist right now. I
do think its a threat that we have to take seriously. It could happen here.
I hope that clears up any miscommunications. I'm glad you said soemthing if you weren't sure. Have a good night.
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reply posted on 25-5-2007 @ 10:12 AM by the_sentinal
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Originally posted by loss_by_default
I had acually heard my friend saying he saw an article about the camps and to come here and check it out. Apperently, from what he said, there is one
in here in arkansas. I wouldn't mind going and checking it out.
Im still digging through the forums.
[edit on 23-5-2007 by loss_by_default] 
Likewise, if there are any here in Tennessee I would go and check them out but I have no knowledge of any near here.
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reply posted on 25-5-2007 @ 11:14 AM by polanksi
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Civilian Inmate Program!
Is anyone familiar with this document? It's a cover letter that mentions a 'civilian inmate labor program' and 'civilian prison camps'. I have
never heard these camp refered to as anything other than 'Immigrant detention centers'
www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk...
It's dated 1997 but seems especially relevant today. I know that the US brought many Nazi's back after WWII, but this is ridiculous. Obviously we
may be funding the very camps we may be intered in when the NWO seizes power.
An old post, this is a government document.
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reply posted on 27-5-2007 @ 01:31 AM by skid
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This is one of the most recent articles I have seen on this subject in the official propaganda papers: (February 4, 2006)
Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers

select.nytimes.com...
"The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could in the name of
stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."

- U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994
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