This was a former Amtrak facility and now I believe is run by Northfork Southern. Still a train repair facility just cleaned and painted with tax
dollars to make it more valuable in sale. Really most large factories are like prison camps with the new heightened security for employees.
mikell
Mr. Sea toured the Indiana Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility in 1994. There are 10+ maintenance barns here, covering 129 acres. The windows of several
buildings have been bricked up. Hence, you have three levels
of security for Amtrak repair barns! There are 3 helicopter wind socks. There are high security people
turnstiles, and high security lighting for 24-hour operation. The box car (gas chamber) building fence is
marked with special 'RED/BLUE Zone' signs. This corresponds to the 'mission'
of the 'RED/BLUE Zone Lists which surfaced in 1996.
Under martial law, this will become a death camp. They're only going to handle category one and two
'RED/BLUE Zone people there. This box car facility will be used for execution.
One of the barns is large enough to put 4 box cars into. There are powered vents on the top of the barn
to vent the gas out of the building after the box cars have been fumigated. All of the buildings have newly
installed 6 inch gas pipes and furnaces installed in all 'railroad barns.' FEMA has allocated $6 million to
make the walls and roofs of the buildings airtight.
Under martial law, this facility could be immediately used as an SS-style termination gas chamber.
In 1995, Amtrak Laid off 212 at Beech Grove Maintenance Center. Why perform $6 million worth of
renovations, and then lay off 212 people? Because the people doing the final executions will not be
Americans. They'll hire foreigners for this dirty task.
This sounds to far-fetched to be true.........but thats what they said in Nazi germany.
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No one I can see has mentioned biological reasons for internment. Many health officials lose sleep every night waiting for the 24hr killer flu or
bio-terrorism event. It would be logical to create & maintain such internment camps to be employed by FEMA or whoever to control such a situation. It
would also be logical not to advertise them because it would cause a high degree of concern among the public.
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lol why in the hell would the jews have to be scared
Israel receives billions of $$$ from the US and has very strong diplomatic relations.
plus millions of Americans live by the notion that Israel is integral to them getting beamed up to heaven. they love the jews.
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Some people need to learn to connect the dots!  You have surveillance run amok. There is a groundswell beginning to ban firearms. The
government has reorganized itself to ensure that power is more centralized than it has ever been in the hirstory of the U.S. You have the
militarization of the police force. You have a capping off of our personal liberties and freedoms. You have detention camps being built and
maintained by one of the largest DOD contractors in the world. You have the media parroting government propaganda all day and night. You have the
moronification of a nation by an inadequate education system which preaches compliance... And on and on and on...
Hello!?!? Anyone paying attention?  How hard is it to see what is taking place right under your noses? They're not even bothering to do this
in the deepest of shadows; it is RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU!  WE are being socially engineered into THEIR agenda; namely compliance, control or
elimination. This is NOT crazy conspiracy talk - open your eyes and you will see it right before you!
My GOD, I am so scared for the future of America, the future of Democracy, the future of personal freedom, libery and the pursuit of happiness! 
Just so long as people's beer is cold, their pizza is hot and the couch is soft they will gladly shut out reality in favor of their little daydream.
WAKE UP!!! If you don't do it know, you are going to be rudely awakened when it's much too late!
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thanks Polanski and Souljah
now JUSTIN you said you were debating against them and that generally maybe these camps exist and they are something to pay a bit more attention to in
the future?
did you check out the links above, the reason i ask is because i value your opinion a bit higher since i have read your discussions and threads before
and this seems like something that deserves a bit more attention NOW. what could be the triggers for this? could it be a economic depression and
the chaos that ensues. a biological attack? how bout changes in the political idealogies that as a result form the NAU and erase our constitution? the
NAU seems probabe in the next 4 years. an economic recession seems very likely within 2 (more or less eroding the quality of life for the middle
class) and a war with CHINA either in 2, 5, or 10 or even more years seems likely based on a historic perspective.
seems like the camps would be used to round up dissidents (patriots) in martial law, as well another poster said "biological attacks" which would
serve as either maybe centers to quarantine people. also say in the future another county (i.e china) trys to invade us , could it be used to detain
enemy troops as well
those are the only uses i can think of
but this would we done in secret
and the skeptics i don't blame you guys. they're are SOO many bogus conspiracy theories, but if your gonna be skeptic's be critical thinkers as
well! and research this stuff, it seems people don't want to beleive in something and then they just look to search for the first clue that might
verify there skeptic beleifs "some people 2 years ago wen't looking for these camps" and a couple locations they searched didn't have any
and knowing this little tidbit is all some skeptical of a theory may need for research by doing that you are no better than someone who latches on
to any far fetched belief, and in actuallity you would be worse because you are lying and lulling someone in to a false sense of security (and muddab
sorry for using your response as an example you may have researched more but i am just trying to illustrate a point)
it is very very hard to be a open minded rational critical thinker (tremendously difficult) and the amount of work required usually causes people to
either become skeptics or "beleive anything conspiracy theorists" IMO
obviously there is overlap , but we are just human (most of us  )
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Originally posted by tombangelta
lol why in the hell would the jews have to be scared
Israel receives billions of $$$ from the US and has very strong diplomatic relations.
plus millions of Americans live by the notion that Israel is integral to them getting beamed up to heaven. they love the jews.
exactly. people are just being paraniod (and yes i know that just because you are paranoid doesnt mean they aren't watching you) I'm not saying that
these camps dont exist..I just disagree with who the intended targets are.They are probably targeting another group (mexicans, illegals in general,
japanese, african-americans, arabs..etc)
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Ok guys seriously. This its nutso. Martial law in the U.S.? not while the National Guard is in Iraq, Afghanistan, and so to be Iran. What are they
gonna do draft people and say hey put your countryman in these camps get real. And did you guys see the newspaper dispenser outside of the little
building lol!!! At least there giving out newspapers as they bring in people to the internment camp. Sorry to be sarcastic but this is a bunch of
nonsense and this video is bs.
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why push for immigration, and the NAU, and then detain the same group
there may be some logic, anyone fill me in?
victims of biological attacks and dissidents of an NAU and subsequent loss of constituitional rights are the biggest two reasons that make any
"sense" to me
if in 30 years someone looks back at the united states history (if we are in the NAU and hating it) and sees all the evidence and facts leading up,
what will u say when someone asks why didn't you do anything? powerless? ignorant? apathetic? too busy? it was a carefully constructed plot that
was slow but persistant and methocially planned and un reported in the paid for mass media
and so there is a newspaper dispenser ok " must mean that building with the barbed wire isn't really there"? or that the people working there
while it is not housing anyone might get bored enough to read
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if anyone thinks concentration camps in present day america is a hoax?.
all i have to say is FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
and they are in almost every state. one in your town possibly.
and it's not for illegal immigrants either.
look it up, many sources can be found.
You either obey the New world order. or you are imprisoned and denied rights as an equal.
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does anyone else think the New World refers to "america" as opposed to
Europe being the "old world"
and that the NAU is in a sense the NWO at least "partially" meaning once they form the NAU ,
CHINA will be left as the super power and thus the NWO is formed and that yes it has been imagined to unfold like this for awhile and the
international banksters have been drooling over this
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1+1 is not 2 its 3. Don't let anyone tell you differently. Don't be blind to the conspiracy. LOL. Why is it that for every stupid conspiracy theory
the believers insist that it must be true and if you don't believe you will be doomed. Everything you guys suggest is near impossible these days.
Maybe if we succeed in conquering the middle east and bring our troops home and they need something to do but other than that. This would also be
great for our economy too!!! Put people in concentration camps and they buy lots of neat things. People, the internment camp is your own home. They
want you working for the system to support the system. Without an economy there is no power. People won't be happy little sunday shopper sheep if
there friends are being rounded up for jail. Get a frickin clue.
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Considering the wildly disproportionate number of jews active in US politics (and even more of them pulling the strings in the background, including
the media) the only conclusion to be reached re: this thread and its sources is that it is nothing more than peculiar propaganda.
Would the indisputable jewish dominance in US politics further an 'anti-jewish' agenda, complete with 'US jewish camps' ? For what purpose?
I too have jewish family members, NONE of whom can cite ONE person within their very wide circle of family, associates, European neighbours etc. who
perished in WW2 from anything other than ordinary warfare. Not ONE !
In fact, the only death they are able to cite as occurring within the immediate family during the entire war in Europe was one of the grandparents
(then in his late 40s) who died as the result of falling from a ladder while painting a house.
During the final year of WW2, the entire extended family (including the elderly, children, etc.) migrated to South America, the United States,
Australia and the UK, where they still live today. They hold frequent family-gatherings in Santa Barbara and Australia and these are attended still
by several of their original European family-friends and associates from WW2, who are now in their mid to late 80s.
They were ordinary people and did not (whilst in Europe) possess wealth or influence. All have prospered & have assets far in excess of what they
could have accumulated in Europe, by their own admittance. When they left Europe (DURING the final year of WW2) they were able to take with them such
items as grandfather clocks, violins, cherished family linen, toys and other normal household possessions, most of which items I've seen, handled and
even had within my own home.
Initially, I was very naive. I had totally accepted the 'facts' repeated again and again in documentaries, films, books, memoirs, etc. purportedly
written by alleged ' Jewish WW2 survivors' and others. I tentatively asked my jewish family, friends and their associates about the 'horrors' to
which I assumed they'd been exposed.
They glanced at me with puzzled and even amused expressions. Finally, one of the older ones advised me: " Don't believe everything you hear,
dear."
" But the concentration camps ! " I said, " It must have been so awful for you ! "
Some lost patience with me after a few years. At a gathering, one of them, while drunk, yelled at me in front of everyone else: " Are you stupid?
No matter how many times you're told, you just won't let go of this nonsense, will you? We were never IN any camps! You've seen photos of how we
lived. Do you WANT to believe we saw camps and furnaces --- is THAT what you want us to say? Will that make you happy ? Why would we say we never
saw or heard of any of it, if we had? But you're determined to believe it. You'd rather believe books and films than those who were there ? "
I attended school with several jews (they attended Jewish classes separately) and spent many hours in their homes. Their parents had departed Europe
during or after the war; had brought all their possessions with them, purchased houses in up-market suburbs, continued their careers, adjusted easily
into Australian society -- basically didn't skip a beat in the transition and made no attempt to distance themselves from others. They'd brought
their photo albums from Europe. Some of the photos had obviously been taken during WW2. In the background of some, were rubble and derelict
buildings. But within these family photos, my friends' parents and their families appeared well-dressed, healthy and were smiling normally. As they
pointed out features in the photos, they made comments such as: " Oh, that house behind us was beautiful, but it was destroyed in the war. It
overlooked the park --- see that statue behind me -- well, believe it or not, it wasn't damaged at all. This is the street in winter -- see how
beautiful the snow was then. We used to love going to that park. We've been back (to Europe) since, and everything's fixed up now."
They did mention food, clothing and other shortages during WW2, but so do older people who lived in the UK, Australia, virtually everywhere, during
that time.
Not one of the jews I know or have known personally, has ever given credence to the claims now made in books, movies, memoirs, etc. Not one. And my
jewish family, friends and acquaintances have been Polish and Russian jews, also German jews. Am I the only person to have known jews who lived in
Europe during WW2 and who claim to have no personal experience or awareness of the atrocities which now feature so luridly in the media and appear to
be magnifying as time goes by?
Of all the Europeans I've known, the one who suffered most was a NON-jewish Polish friend of my father, years ago. Tragic doesn't begin to describe
the experiences he endured.
The most noteworthy aspect of the jewish familes with which I'm most closely connected has been their inexplicable 'connection' to rebel Irish
groups and the generous donations and time (including undisclosed visits) to same. The jewish family member most active in this pursuit has expressed
hatred of the British on numerous occasions, whilst drunk. In contrast, this same jewish family professes to be (and may actually be) fervent
Anglophiles.
Many of their elderly, European jewish friends of several decades, adopt an exaggerate 'upper crust' English accent of which they're clearly proud.
It was some years before I learned they were not actually British but European jews with no discernible UK connections. When I asked a family member
why they spoke with such pronounced English accents, I received no answer other than an odd smile in response and the subject was changed.
By strange coincidence, life has placed me in close association with numerous jews of indisputed European origin, yet that same strange coincidence
has caused them, without exception, to state they have no knowledge of the lurid 'concentration camp' scenarios featured in so many books, movies,
documentaries, etc. They weren't trying to downplay their own experiences or those of the jews they'd known: they weren't 'withholding'
information -- they just say it 'may' have happened as is now claimed, but if so, they knew nothing about it, despite living in Europe through
almost the entirety of WW2.
Maybe Australian-based jews are more honest and forward-looking than their US counterparts? Yet American members of the jewish family with whom I'm
most closely connected, claim no personal awareness of 'camps' and 'extermination horrors' either?
In fact, many of the elderly jews remember WW2 with seeming fondness. They speak of the wonderful night-life and the cosmopolitan atmosphere and
cameraderie -- which they miss and often think back to. I've seen their photos, in which the women were very smartly attired in furs and the men in
Astrakan. The children were also very smartly dressed and appeared very well fed. They were born in 1943 and 1945 respectively, which was when the
war --- particularly for jews if today's claims are to be believed --- was at its height and worst. To be remembered is the fact none of these
people possessed wealth or influence -- they were just ordinary citizens. None of their personal history conforms with the horror stories with which
we're regaled today.
This ordinary family contained --- on one side alone --- seven or eight sisters and a lesser number of brothers .......... all of whom survived the
war and moved (with their own familes) to North and South America and Australia, as did their mother who lived to her mid-90s in the US. From what
I've heard, the flight OUT of Europe was the most traumatic experience, as the planes which weren't pressurised, according to them.
US 'camps' for jews now? I think it's nonsense.
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OK
2 problems with the last 2 posters
the latest saying that since the jewish "control" america this will make jews safe from the centers and THUS all the links on THIS thread are
propoganda
well i don't think jews especially as a group have anything to worry about concerning the detainment camps, anymore that a "regular american
citizen"
does this make the links souljah provided pure propoganda? NOPE sorry
does this make the camps not a threat? NOPE
all it does is make the TOPIC of the thread seem like nonsense
and the poster before that saying this is not possible. because we need happy little shoppers to run the economy and that he assumes a large portion
of the country will be hidden in these camps, so impossible
EXCEPT these camps may serve to a be a great source to DETER those from speaking up or stepping more out of line, wether they feel a certain way is
one thing, wether they actually plan on FIGHTING for there rights is another all- together. also this economy is well over due to a "correction" the
spending spree will be severely curtailed and the lower class will grow and the elite who are running the economy will continue to enjoy things
running smoothly "for them" . don't forget the NAU as well
are u suggesting a proposal to integrate canada and mexico with us and lose or constitutional rights would not cause an uprising that may require
large numbers of revolting/rioting people to be rounded up? and at least detained temporarily? and that by rounding people up and putting some in
camps that there friends will do what? stop working , no don't think so . prices will be higher so they will want to work more. they will want to
feed there hungry children so they may feel the need to conform and not speak up
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If such a parallel to Nazi Germany were happening in America, I sincerely doubt the primary victims would be Jewish, considering our heavy support of
Israel.
If ANYTHING, it would be Muslims, but even that is very far fetched.
Ether way I don't think any of this holds any water.
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I don't know about all of them, but I can tell you for certain that the "camp" at FT. Meade in Maryland is not a concentration camp. It is, in
fact, a military base. It has reduced in size immensely over the years, and is mostly used by the National Guard and as a public entertainment
venue. (they have a pavillion for local sporting events and such)
So...I don't buy that there is a concentration camp there. If that part of the initial story is inaccurate, then how much more of the story was also
inaccurate?
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