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Topic started on 4-1-2004 @ 07:49 PM by sweatmonicaIdo
Tonight, I have come to the conclusions that teens are misunderstood by most of society, especially Generation X and above.

I was talking to my dad about how if someone didn't like me, I wouldn't care, because that's their problem. He immedietely took it as a sign of anti-socialism. Okay, the two have almost nothing in common. There's a difference between flicking off everyone and saying "That's great. Congratulations!" to someone who insults you. I mean, didn't they even teach that? To not care about what somebody says? Some even take it as far as it saying "I don't respect others' beliefs."

It doesn't stop there. Teenagers are so misunderstood, it's so sad. Since teens nowadays are exposed to more conflicting and a wider array of viewpoints, they know more, but this isn't really appreciated by the majority, the older society. They still expect teens to conform to society and satisfy the majority (the older generation), but with more knowledge, this doesn't happen. Thus they are looked down upon, looked on as disappointments. Just because we question authority, we are seen as anarchists and lacking in common sense, and whatever.

I wish society would take more time to know and understand today's youth. We have so much positive things to give, yet we're oppressed constantly and told to do this, talk like this, etc. We understand everyone else too well. Time for everyone else to understand us, instead of saying "I can't believe they'll be running the country someday!"


reply posted on 4-1-2004 @ 08:48 PM by ihatethisplace
im going to agree and disagree with you. first of all kids have been getting worse with the years. as i see it and this is just my view, each new generation moves farther and farther from their parents ideas 100 years ago kids were a lot diff than they are today. as time went on they got more rebellious look at the hippies, how do you think their kids would turn out? i agree with the whole information thing. kids today have it a lot easier for the most part than they did a while ago and information and ideas are more readilly availiable. while maybe 50 60 years ago you would grow up and do as your parents did today their is so much information you can get you dont have to do as your parents did.
so who is to blame for our "poor missunderstood" teens? everybody and nobody. blame gangster rap, but that music isnt made for the middle aged white man, look where it comes from its not for you. you cant realate to it so stay away from it and stop using at as a scapegoat for poor parenting. the only reason you blame it is because the trend now is for the young suburban white kids to listen to it.
and i dont mean poor parenting in a bad way but a lot of families get divorces or work day and night. i havent seen my father since i was 10 im 19 now. and my mother works days and nights but some how i go to work everyday 9-5 and manage to go to school. i might not see my mother for days and we live in the same house. its all subjective and the truth is everyones looking for someone else to blame.
fear of authority. there is none. back in the day a kid would get a beating for acting up, now try that and i bet you'll make a troubled kid. why because some "older" parent or whomever started the idea of child abuse now theres laws because the older crowd had to cry about it.
go ahead and blame the kids while we did nothing but were born into this filth of a society wherever your from. find your scapegoats and stick to your guns and just pray your child dosent turn out to be a gangster rapper.
give kids a chance and maybe they will surprise you.


reply posted on 5-1-2004 @ 02:17 PM by RANT
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Tonight, I have come to the conclusions that teens are misunderstood by most of society, especially Generation X and above.


You're talking about the real Gen X'ers (over 30 now) right? Them not understanding teens?

And you think Gen Y or Gen Next is better?

If I haven't misunderstood, then yes, I hear young people complaining about those 'spoiled Gen X'ers' all the time now. People are more likely to have a Gen X boss (in middle mgt) than any other age group. Even older people tend to have Gen X bosses.

As a group, we're INSANE. Paper millionaires from the 90's now serving coffee at Starbucks, 50's retro culture types with 2.4 kids or the total opposite with stay at home dads. But the 'spoiled' point tends to hold across the board. It's a very successful group, and for the most part hard work had nothing to do with it. It rode the technology explosion into a new age, and enslaved the older generation in many regards.

Sorry, I rambled off topic. But I'll add, as a Gen X'er...you're right. I don't get teens today. I may be confusing teens and 20 something's though.

IMO the 'screw it' mentality of social drugging and group sex got waaaay out of hand with Gen Y, and there's a serious and unnecessary backlash from GEN Next going ultra conservative, bible thumping and anti-progress.

But that just a general observation....and nothing more.

And I thought the baby boomers before me were a bunch of fake alcoholic, pill head, computer phobes if that helps clarify the point that I don't 'get' anyone.


reply posted on 21-1-2004 @ 11:20 PM by TrueLies
First of all, the true definition of anarchism, if total freedom.. And I don't mean rebelling. Government fears anarchism because it involves a system without rulers.
Anarchy and anarchism mean "system and management without ruler(s), i.e. co-operation without repression, tyranny and slavery, practically".

The words anarchy and anarchism are a bit problematic. Sorry to say, anglophone languages are very much twisted in an Orwellian "1984" "newspeak" way, to fool the people via the education to worship authority, compared to Nordic language, say,

A. Rules, rule = regler, regel (relatively fixed ways to settle things in an orderly way, i.e. regulations and regulatory means); but also

B. Rules, rule = hersking, hersker, herske (to be an arch/ruler, act as an arch, bestiality).

Briefly defined anarchy and anarchism are coordination on equal footing, without superiors and subordinates, i.e. horizontal organization and co-operation without coercion. This means practically or ideally, i.e. ordinary vs perfect horizontal organization respectively. Thus, anarchy and anarchism mean real democracy, economical and political/administrative, in private and public sector. Thus, anarchy means coordination without government, in the meaning of different forms of vertically organized, i.e. chaotic included, economic and/or political-administrative relations among people, (and thus not without public sector). "Coercion" is defined as restraint, hindrance, compulsion and government by force, ruling, i.e. repression.

Say, two people stranded on an island may co-operate without coercion to survive, i.e. anarchy, or act as superior vs subordinates, i.e. hierarchy, government, and more or less chaos.


Now, since your talking about generations before you being disappointed, I want to point a few things out about what we see in society.

Within society, walking in a mall, driving by, being at a beach, wherever you go isn't important, but it's what we see... I'm not saying "all" you kids are like that, but alot are.

We see a media infested brain that is pumped with a bunch of garbage as far as i'm concerned, from nsync all the way down to christina agueleria or however u spell her name.

We see girls mirroring her image, as well as j.lo, spears, simpson, ect... It's all very sexual, and I believe that you guys aren't fully ''aware'' of the consequences.

The guys seem to be lazier in this generation. My step brother for example told me that 80% of his school smokes pot, 10% are athletic, and the other 10 are nerds. It seems like a big number of pot smoking idiots dont u agree?

Those kinds of behaviours don't contribute anything positive to themselves. It's self destructive behaviour as far as i'm concerned, and the girls I see walking around in skimpy clothes, letting their thongs hang out of their pants, and using the word "like" in every other word isn't really impressive to other people around them.

What alot of us see, and i'm not talking for everyone, but what alot of us see are kids who are involved in self destructive behaviours, they aren't aware of their actions, they think they know it all (which like anyother kid in every generation... it's a phase) and dont want to be told what to do... nobody does..

But it breaks my heart to see a generation that is brain infested with mtv sluts and thugs, that refer to the female species as their bitches or hoes. I see alot of mind numbing "reality" shows that do nothing constructive but gossip about other people, or have some other negative connotation attached to it. I don't see what you learn or enjoy our of joe millionaire or the bachlorette. They are one in the same to me. It seems every channel has their own "reality'' show and it's totally mind numbing.
I see more time spent on the internet then being active, I see more obese kids then ever before, and I see alot of self indulgent teenagers, which btw you can thank the media for.

You asked I answered. My honest opinion.
You may not like it, but I don't like it either.

There are some kids that may have alot to offer and are good kids, it's just that you don't hear or see too many of them around anymore. I'm sure these other self destructive kids are good in their own ways as well, but in this case the negative overrides the positive.

Hope this helps.

TL
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