New Drone, similar to the C2C one, page 24
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reply posted on 26-5-2007 @ 04:02 AM by TKainZero
OK, after reading many pages of this and paying reasonbly close atention to this case since it broke a few weeks ago it seems, a few things come to mind.

If these pictures are not fake then,

A. Mabye the varations are due to the diffrent intruments that these craft have, we have diffrent instiments to measure all kinds of things on our missions to the moon, and mars and such.

B. This would possilbly be a new Race of Aliens. Due to the very unique design of the ship it is sunlike any other ive seen, mabye with a technologly that is greater then that of some of our other visitors.

C. How these thing just kind of appear out of nowhere and are down near the surface of earth. What if, the top of the craft were the metal rods go up, at that point it looks that it is "streched" through and across space-time and droppedright onto our planet.

D. The text is very strange, it would not be unreasonable to think that another inteligent would have a visual codeing system.

E. That REALY bad pic that popped up a few pages ago. It was the first picture which was presented as real that i thought that i could do a better job then.


In all, if this i for real then we sould start seeing these things in a lot of more places around the surrounding area and then the globe, and if its really real, then might drop in, and if then have this technology it could happen at any moment.

*Now its 2am and i will listen tto the C2C re-broadcast and see what LMH has said, looking and keeping in mind the info that i have learned.


*****

LMH had alot of stuff to stay, while a great chunk of it seems to be good evidence, she however does make that one terrible mistake of calling the CG animation on Youtube, to be, sercert photeage, and at a military base or something. But, other then that, she had a good 2 hours of information to report on, with only about 20 to this topic though.


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reply posted on 26-5-2007 @ 04:04 AM by jon_1983
Is there an mp3 or podcast, stream of the C2C interview?



reply posted on 26-5-2007 @ 08:51 AM by Areal51
The poster of the YouTube footage,saladfingers123456 has added a more detailed explanation in the comments section of the YouTube page, saying in his first post,

"Hello everyone... This isn't real. I did it as part of an investigation as to the legitimacy of the original images supplied by 'Chad'. I'm trying to see at what point can we be convinced by CG images, and what are the things to look for when disseminating an image that could be 3D in origin."

And then in his second post,

" I'd send you a link to the discussion, but youtube wont let me. pfff typical

p.s. Linda, I think you should tell everyone it isnt real.. and the reason I created it.

BTW where can I hear this radio show? Thanks!"


Those are his two posts in full.

Linda Moulton Howe's performance on this case is a great disappointment to me. I've always tuned into her broadcasts on Coast to Coast AM and on Whitley Streiber's Dreamland radio show, and I'm pretty sure I've listed to every single report of hers on C2C since I've been listening to Art Bell and George Noory over the past six years. Her statement that this Youtube footage was real could have been easily avoided. A thorough reporter would not have made such an obvious mistake. Now I have to wonder about everything she has said and reported. I have to wonder if she completely disregarded "saladfingers123456" intial remarks of the footage being "CG". Since, I've always approached paranormal topics with great caution, it is especially disappointing to witness such a terrible performance from someone who usually offers convincing investigative reporting. This is the only time I've ever been able to independently verify anything that the Linda has reported, and it does not stand up to scrutiny.

And it further deepens the mystery as to why she has yet to consult any CGI/imaging professionals to give commentary and analysis of the available evidence of this increasingly frustrating case. With her connections to George Noory and Noory's connections in Hollywood, CA, she could very easily find some of the best in the CGI/imaging business to go on the record, as many of them have in the past in relation to paranormal phenomena, with commentary and analysis. Why has this road been studiously avoided by Linda Mouton Howe and George Noory to this point is as real a mystery as any other. It does not make any sense. No one, zero witnesses, have attached their real names to this case. Now contrast that with farmers associated with crop circle formations. The comparison doesn't mean much but it does show that some people have the guts to stand by their experiences, and to allow intrusion as the price to pay for their willingness to reach an understandable conclusion.

The standard reporting on paranormal phenomena should be raised higher. Extraordinary claims should be backed by extraordinary people in addition to extraordinary evidence. If someone claims to experience something "all of the time" then those who would be in charge of investigating those claims should be allowed to draw a comprehensive profile of the person(s) making those claims. Much more comprehensive than "Chad" or "Susan". It's one thing to protect identity, and it's another to protect identity at a distance. If someone like, Linda Moulton Howe, cannot travel to the location of where the extraordinary claims have been made, then the story should not be reported. If she is not allowed to handle original photos supporting extraordinary claims, the story should not be reported on. If the original photos are not allowed to to undergo professional analysis, the story should not be reported. If Linda Moulton Howe or others like her fail to verify sources and the evidence that they present as being bona fide, the story should not be reported on. If any of this criteria is not met, the story should not be believed. That's my take on it.

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reply posted on 26-5-2007 @ 12:33 PM by CthulhuRising
Earthfiles
And view this brief video clip from unknown source at youtube. As of May 26, I am told this is someone's CGI creation from the "dragonfly drone" photos. If so, it is valuable to see as an education about what can be done in computers, but this brief clip does not contradict in any way the two solid eyewitness reports in this Earthfiles and Chad's photos. Whitley Strieber has had a professional image expert in Los Angeles examine the Chad photos and conclude the frames were made on a digital camera, not Photoshop. See: www.unknowncountry.com... ]

www.youtube.com...


Finally..They have posted a correction on the youtube video. But in the same paragraph have confirmed that Chad's photo's were taken on a digital camera..I thought it was confirmed they were taken on a 35mm??


reply posted on 26-5-2007 @ 04:04 PM by BO XIAN
I have met Linda Moulton Howe in person at the Aztec conference a year ago. I found her quite authentic, earnest, diligent, serious . . .

She told my friend and I some vague heavily serious warning thing about 2012 and later denied it to another friend. My take on that is that she either didn't remember well or more likely, she was warned about saying such things publicly. I don't know.

I don't mind giving her the freedom to fail, to be wrong on occasion. I happen to be human myself. More power to you, if you don't have that problem.

I don't recall what she said on the program about the constructed video. If the thought it was authentic--she goofed.

IIRC, the gal Linda interviewed in California insisted that the craft moved like a dragon fly in terms of it's flight characteristics. The constructed video is not like that.

I'm still convinced that typically Linda is a rather thorough researcher and has demonstrated a lot of integrity in the lengths she goes to verify facts. I don't know what happened with her and the constructed video. Doesn't make me throw out the baby with the bath.

I still assert that the woman she interviewed in Calif was an authentic observer relating her experiences truly as she perceived and remembered them. I'm thankful Linda bothered to talk to the lady for 2-3 hours on the phone and get as much detail as possible from her.

I also believe that the different versions of the craft are a type of verification, to a point . . . as are the sightings at different locations.

But, hey, we all see through the glass darkly as Scripture says. We shall see what the morrow holds.

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