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Topic started on 21-5-2007 @ 12:33 AM by RedStar11
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Remember that weird drone that someone saw earlier this month and submitted the pictures to the Coast to Coast website?
Well someone else in California saw a very similar craft and posted pictures on a flickr account.
www.flickr.com...@N06/sets/72157600236430072/
 This week I was visting my fiance's parents in Capitola (we were actually there to tell them about our engagement, in fact). We were eating
dinner on the back porch when we noticed this "object" sort of hovering in the sky. The camera was still out from earlier so I grabbed it and tried
to get some clear shots of it. It took off over the roof shortly after, so I ran into the street in front of the house to follow, trying to get more
shots without wobbling around too much (which was harder than it sounds). It then came in lower over a telephone pole, where I was able to get a few
more pictures, before it finally took off into the distance pretty fast. I thought it was gone but noticed it was still visible, so I grabbed a few
more pictures.
At one point a car stopped to look as well. No one had any idea what this thing was but everyone in the car was visibly freaked out by it. Once it was
gone they told me to call the news and drove off.  I'm not sure who else saw it in the neighborhood since I don't live down there, but I'm sure
at least a few others must have noticed it. It was way too werid and way too close to go unnoticed. Once it was gone and I caught my breath I could
barely stop my hands from shaking for the next hour or so. Needless to say, this is all we talked about for the rest of the night. None of us can
figure out what it was (and that's saying something, because my fiance's dad is a mechanical engineer).
We sent a copy of the photos to their newspaper but haven't heard back yet. I dunno how long that kind of thing takes.
There's also some writing on this thing, which I didn't recognize (and I read both English and Hindi). You can see it in a few of the pictures.
Anyway, I created this Flickr account for the best of these pictures. I have no clue what this thing is so I'm putting it out there to see if anyone
else saw it.
6 photos | 489 views
Photos are from 16 May 07. 
New Drone
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Now, does everyone STILL think this is a photoshop masterpiece?
If you do, then whomever made these must REALLY be dedicated. If you look at the original Coast to Coast drone images, the crafts are a little bit
different in structure from each other.
Original Coast to Coast drone:
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New Drone to compare:
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Now, if only we knew WHERE this original UFO was seen. I do not think the guy revealed his location. Plus since these two craft are different it
makes me wonder how many more of these things are out there...
I saw the new UFO originally posted on the San Francisco General Craigslist.org
sfbay.craigslist.org...
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 12:40 AM by yuefo
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And we know this isn't the same Chad guy how?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 12:44 AM by RedStar11
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I really don't know.
I wish the original guy would disclose where he took the pictures from.
But I thought it was weird I found the new pics on Craigslist, not like the guy submitted them to C2C. Though I did email him the link to the
original C2C pics and told him he should submit the new ones there.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 12:47 AM by errorist
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Good find. Just wondering why this guy opened a flickr account just to post these pictures. It would have been a bit more believable to me if he had
other galleries there with photos of birthday parties, his pets, etc..
anyway, there's an email adress..anyone contacted him yet?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 12:55 AM by eaglewingz
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Originally posted by RedStar11
Now, does everyone STILL think this is a photoshop masterpiece? 
Actually, this was predicted.
Originally posted by groingrinder
This UFO is going to appear in more places than Matt Lauer. 
 ...whomever made these must REALLY be dedicated. 
Ever seen those forum hoaxes where one poster played multiple personalities and argued with him/herself for months?
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:09 AM by highCT
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Originally posted by eaglewingz
Originally posted by RedStar11
Now, does everyone STILL think this is a photoshop masterpiece? 
Actually, this was predicted.
Originally posted by groingrinder
This UFO is going to appear in more places than Matt Lauer. 
 ...whomever made these must REALLY be dedicated. 
Ever seen those forum hoaxes where one poster played multiple personalities and argued with him/herself for months?
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.
[edit on 5/21/2007 by eaglewingz] 
OR they are real. ever think of that one?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:17 AM by errorist
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Can exif data be faked?
Compression: JPEG
Image Description: MINOLTA DIGITAL CAMERA
Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Software: V100-02
Date and Time: 2007:05:16 17:42:58
YCbCr Positioning: Co-Sited
Exposure Program: Normal
Date and Time (Original): 2007:05:16 17:42:58
Date and Time (Digitized): 2007:05:16 17:42:58
Compressed Bits per Pixel: 4 bits
Metering Mode: Pattern
Color Space: sRGB
Image Width: 1600 pixels
Image Height: 1200 pixels
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:37 AM by eaglewingz
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Originally posted by highCT
OR they are real. ever think of that one? 
Sure. Just pointing out that "multiple sightings" reported on the Net doesn't increase the chances of it being real, as the OP seems to imply.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:41 AM by eaglewingz
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Originally posted by errorist
Can exif data be faked? 
Yes, quite easily.
Exif editors
Exif Pilot - exif software. The program allows you to edit Exif data or to add it to the JPG files that didn't have it before. You can take a lot of
images and set timestamps for every one of them ahead or back a certain number of hours.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:43 AM by Gemwolf
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Originally posted by eaglewingz
Originally posted by RedStar11
Now, does everyone STILL think this is a photoshop masterpiece? 
Actually, this was predicted.
Originally posted by groingrinder
This UFO is going to appear in more places than Matt Lauer. 
 ...whomever made these must REALLY be dedicated. 
...
Some people have WAY too much time on their hands.

Exactly. Forums (like ATS) is a learning school for hoaxers, just as much as it is for "the normal people"  . All the mistakes of a previous hoax
are pointed out, and they get step-by-step instructions on how to correct the hoax, and create a better one. Are "we" thus coaxing hoaxers to create
the "ultimate" hoax?
Dare I use the word “hoax” so loosely?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:50 AM by highCT
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i know eaglewingz but this case just turned from blah to amazing quick!
img134.imageshack.us...
call me crazy but I think it two different crafts above? the writing is different and the wing is just a bit different. very odd no? i wonder what
will come of this and if i will start seeing these crafts now instead of the fire orbs LOL
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URLed pic - stretching page
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:53 AM by Cygnific
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Why are NONE of the pictures focused on the object itself? If i try to make a picture of an object i would atleast 'try' to focus/point my camera on
the object itself.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:54 AM by errorist
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i believe the exif is altered. When i download the pictures to my desktop, i get "no exif data availabe"
When checking the exif online
here i get something different
as the exif shown on flickr
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:56 AM by highCT
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Originally posted by Cygnific
Why are NONE of the pictures focused on the object itself? If i try to make a picture of an object i would atleast 'try' to focus/point my camera on
the object itself. 
grab the pictures off flickr and throw them in photoshop. looks in focus too me!
if this is fake.... anything in the world now can be faked and that is it period end of story over.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:58 AM by Dulcimer
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Does anyone else think this could be the start of some sort of viral marketing?
That is what I am thinking at the moment.
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:59 AM by yuefo
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Well there are now 3 of these things supposedly photographed by unrelated persons, yet as far as I know, none of them has revealed his or her actual
identity. Hmm. It's not like they witnessed a murder or something and need to protect their identities out of fear for their lives. If I photographed
this thing (really, not hoaxed it), I'd be more than happy to identify myself and let the chips fall where they may. How about you?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 01:59 AM by Cygnific
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Originally posted by highCT
Originally posted by Cygnific
Why are NONE of the pictures focused on the object itself? If i try to make a picture of an object i would atleast 'try' to focus/point my camera on
the object itself. 
grab the pictures off flickr and throw them in photoshop. looks in focus too me!
if this is fake.... anything in the world now can be faked and that is it period end of story over. 
I dont have to put them in photoshop to see that the object is not in the middle of the picture, why would you take a picture from a object half the
screen away from it?
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 02:00 AM by fooffstarr
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The writing is different, and the 'wings' are rotated and switched around again... but that is the same as what changed on the second set of images
as well.
My bet is that it is the same 'Chad' guy making slight alterations to his original model and skin and simply rendering it with different background
images... not very hard to do or very time consuming either...
I'm fairly sure Jritzmann will back me up on that as well
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 02:05 AM by fooffstarr
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Originally posted by Dulcimer
Does anyone else think this could be the start of some sort of viral marketing?
That is what I am thinking at the moment.

Possibly...
Another topic on the frontpage kind of jogged my memory...
Maybe the writing style was used in the original Transformers movie or series? It might have something to do with the movie/games being released for
that...
Or maybe something for a sci-fi TV series...
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reply posted on 21-5-2007 @ 02:07 AM by highCT
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Originally posted by yuefo
Well there are now 3 of these things supposedly photographed by unrelated persons, yet as far as I know, none of them has revealed his or her actual
identity. Hmm. It's not like they witnessed a murder or something and need to protect their identities out of fear for their lives. If I photographed
this thing (really, not hoaxed it), I'd be more than happy to identify myself and let the chips fall where they may. How about you? 
some people dont wanna be known as "a crazy person" because they saw a "ufo" so they are not quick to come foward, but use the internet to get it
off there chest kinda. if this is real we can only hope that they will come foward.
and I really hope this is not a viral ad. ill sue someone.
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