Blacks Have Less Worth Than Whites

Mate i completely agree with you there... All through primary school i was best mates with someone. High school comes around and my best mate and his family friend (who lived at the back of my house and who I also used to play with and muck around with when younger) would get together at recess and lunch time with me as well. And then they'd talk Croation (knowing i can only speak english, give me # and swear about me, call me names, gang up on me (my "best friend" had taught me a few croation words and what they mean like swear words, bad words so i still understood some of what they were calling me). That would be at recess and lunch. Once recess and lunch were over, my "best friend" would be back to normal and think everything was ok. Same as the "friend" who lived behind my house. I put up with it for a while. Not for too long though. And yes indeed they were racist towards me being an Australian living in Australia. They also hated Serbians too. (as from what i've learned.... most croatians do (from what i've seen).

Whoa, it seems that many people responding to this thread are a little off touch with the OPs message and intentions. The OPs point, while missing a key aspect or two, would seem to be pretty valid. Let me explain.

The point is one which attempts to say that 'the news reports little to none on the deaths/hardships/horrible events of other peoples'. The OP then relates it to 'non-whites' being ignored within the media. Here is where I think he/she went wrong.

There is, within the media and culture of any given country, a tendancy to ignore most of the 'bad news' out of other countries and focus on the news which affects our country/culture. In my opinion it is not a matter of actual racism (although it may play out within our culture to a degree) but one of ethnocentrism.

We report on a plane crash taking place in say...Japan. Our news would report on the lost lives of our citizens. We may make specific mention of any lost from the 'closest of nations' (Britian for example), but for the most part we will focus on our loss...even though the majority of those killed were Japanese. Why? Because we naturally take in and absorb the values and identity of our own culture. We, as a result, attach ourselves emotionally to those of our shared citizenship.

While ethnocentrism may also attribute ones culture with a 'higher value', this is not due to (on a global scale) racism, but rather our self-minded observation of the world. Example: When the tsunami hit in Sri Lanka, our media, at first, focused on the staggering amount of people killed. However, after the number began to sink in, the media focused on what it always focusses on (and what we, as a country, are more receptive to): the loss of our own.

We watched the horror and hero stories coming out of Sri Lanka that had to do with our citizens; not because, as a country, we are racially biassed towards those of Sri Lanka, but because it is our natural reaction and focus.

To reverse the culture and the race for a point: I have three friends from Sri Lanka. While at college, they were sent newspaper articles from their homes. When an earthquake hit in Iran a number of traveling Sri Lankan citizens were killed as well. The paper mentioned the number of dead, but then, for the next few days, it foccused on nothing but those from Sri Lanka that were killed. This is not because of a racial biassed towards those in Iran, it is simply identifying and attaching themselves to those of their own citizenship. Simply doing as we all do.

In short: Yes. Our media does not spend much time talking of specific people and places which are ruined throughout the world; we spend time talking about ourselves. While there may be a bit of institutionalized racsm on a national level...within the global scale we simply do what every culture does.

Obviously you haven't traveled the world or been in other countries. There are many many countries in Europe, Eastern Block countries or the former Soviet Union where the children are starving, homeless, parentless, in need of medical care and most people don't know about it, even you. These children are exploited used, sold as sex slaves and yes they are white.

Without trying to offend anyone here at ATS and in America, most people don't know WTF is going on outside the USA and the plastic bubble, only what they are told.

I have had the fortunate opportunity to travel the world and see the other side in many countries. In this chaotic world no one is better than the other.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by Realtruth]

Where do you live, because I want to move there.

As a white male in Australia, I am constantly being looked in the eye and discriminated against. In this land, there are many people from many lands, who consider me different to them. Often I feel as if I have to suffer some sort of blame, simply for being white, because of the very attitude that the OP appears to hold. And I've done nothing wrong to anyone. Just last night I sat with some Aborigines and we drank a few beers together. I wont take the blame that feely-goody people want me to. Yet, time and time again, I hear "You whites" this and "You whites" that - its a cop out by people with an agenda.

Disproportionate jail rate? Is the moon hot and the sun pocketed with craters. Truth, is not proportional.

Never having to experience indifference?

Being of a hard working family, those with things given to them, often scoffed at me while I was growing up. Those WITH certainly discriminated against those WITHOUT. Still do.



[edit on 19/5/2007 by badw0lf]

[edit on 19/5/2007 by badw0lf]

My eyes are rolling.

You live in a sad place, my friend...

My First ignore button victim.. Damn...

sorry for the one post reply, but this clown is a tool and Im sick of people like him.

I dont think its race. I think its monetary value and status. A poor white girl who lives in a trailer park would have never have gotten the status on the news that one girl who went to aruba and dissapeared did.

Wow as always white people come in to this thread and start giving black folks every reason why they need to STFU. I'm tired of it. This is exactly why the police can beat down innocent black kids and get away with it. They are protected by whites with the attitude "well you're not in chains now..so what's the problem?".

The problem is that you ask any black person..i mean ANY black person if they trust the cops..and like 90% will say NO. It's a fact that white cops are responsible for putting innocent black kids away behind bars every day. White people just don't want to accept that fact, because they think the world is all peaches and candy canes.

The fact is that shadow racism still exists. The proof nobody cares if black entertainres die..is the fact that 90% of black entertainers that get murdered their cases NEVER get solved. U people act as if it's easy to be black. The biggest problem is the cops. One of the biggest reasons pot is not legal is because they make a lot of money..busting inner city kids for drugs. It's no accident that over 60% of the people in jail for drugs, are there for pot.

It's also no accident that blacks make up the majority of the prison system. Whites will probably say "well blacks are the ones that commit the most crimes" or some other useless dribble. Here's the deal, whites commit just as many crimes, but they don't get arrested and prosecuted nearly as much as blacks.

Blacks and other minorities make up the majority of the prison system. How is this right when the majority of the country is still white?? It proves there is an imbalance of justice in our society..soley based on race.

NOtice how when Obama comes out their all like "oh he's so clean and articulate"..but if Busta Rhymes was to run for president they would be like "oh god he's to black and outspoken!" There's a certain way that you MUST act as a black person to please white people.

They don't like if you act to bold, or wear your hair to long, or use to much common black slang, or listen to rap music. Fact is that whites dont' really like black culture..they like oreo black culture. Stuff like The MEssage, and Menace 2 Society are to real for white folks. So they say things like "oh it's negative, it's not a postive influence".

Why if i wear big loose close, and talk "ghetto" with my friends..am i looked at as a dangerous negro? You tell me that if a white person were to see a black person in a business suit shaved head and tie..they would be ok with it. But if they saw that SAME black person, with braids and dressed up like Jay-Z..they would be scared?

That's why i say we can't even act like ourselves a lot of the time in real life..because white people don't accept it. IT's messed up that now the mexicans are about to be treated better than us! It's freakin absurd they wanna give over a million border hopers citizenship..and they still have a problem when we say that we're tired of whites crapping on us all the time.

How i act at work and school is 10X different then how i act at home with my friends. Look i've been through some traumatic stuff in my life when it comes to white people. I don't expect anyone white to understand, but i also find it funny that when the blacks post here..they are all like "well no..there IS still some separation of equality in the races". That's no coincedence, that's no conspirocy..that's FACT that white people REFUSE to see.

What blacks as a whole are trying to say is not that we want you to pamper us and feel bad for us..we just want whites as a whole to admit that they are still oppressing blacks through police corruption, modern day minstrel shows and movies, shadow racism, and poor education for inner citys.

Do blacks screw up? of course. Some of the rap that comes out nowadays is all about blacks expoiting blacks..but why do you think white society allows that? They would rather see a black guy jumping around like a monkey and talking about his cars and bling..then to see a militant black rapper like KRS1 or Public Enemy talking about REAL issues. Hoez+money = good. Saying F the police and whites still oppress us = bad.

There won't really ever be a change until white people just admit there are huge strides they need to make in terms of putting us on the same level in society. Hurricane katrina..perfect example. Do you really think they would have let thousands of WHITE people starve and die for days at a time while the news media milks the tragedy for every dollar they can, and says things like "some of these people are so poor, and so black..". OF course not. Every time there's a tornado or hurricane in some white nehborhhood in the south..everyone jumps up and rushes to help.

But when its blacks who are the ones in need..there's less of a sense of urgency. That's what the OP is really trying to say. Blacks get gunned down and murdered,abducted,kidnapped,raped every day..oh but when a little white girl goes missing it's front page news for a month. Where's the equality?

Kanye West was right in saying GB doesn't care about black people. But it's not just W that doesn't care about blacks, it's for the most part whites as a whole.

Look at it another way. Any time a white person is on the news they are portrayed as a victim. However any time a black person is on the news they are portrayed as the criminal. Where is the equality? IT's a fact that a dead white girl will get more news press over a dead black girl any day of the week.

You may say im racist but i say look at your surroundings. Look at the media, and see how they distort it. Why is it so shocking that Obama can be smart and well spoken? Why is it white people hold him up on some kind of special pedastal and say "oh wow, look at that..a good negro! Why can't more be like that?"

It's because the majority of white folks still think blacks are bafoons. They still think we are some spear chucking apes who cant read or write..so when one of us comes out and talks with some intellegence..it's a huge shock to them. That's not equality. IF obama was white..nobody would say "he's so clean and articulate". White people need to accept that as a whole they STILL don't respect the average black person. The longer you deny it..the worse the problem becomes. That's why we DON'T SNITCH.

All we blacks are saying..is that it's time whites stop the shadow racism and start treating us like normal people, nothing less..nothing more.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by Spawwwn]

yes.

yes.

but

but would you let your daughter marry a black?

would you not be horrified??

i know one white man who buys bananas every day.

you know what he does with them?

n?.

no! no!



he does not eat them...

he throws them at blacks every time a black appears on the tv screen!

and he shouts and swears using the n word at the tv at the black on the screen.

this is one example of the aryan master race's masterness.

and his poor wife has to keep wiping the screen from the marks.


can i ask if any of you do this?

if so have you sought help?

Wow, a totally jacked thread. This is about the media, not what happened to X dude, or what Y dude did, with the exception of the Creba(Aruba) case. Can we get back to the topic?

Spawwn

I think this is what gets to the heart of what I wanted to say. White people cannot live this and therefore find it puzzling when black people dare to mention that everything is not all peaches and cream and home-baked apple pie.

Its called "MEDIA FILTER". Most of us learned about that in college.

As a Black Male, I never trust anything I watch on the local news because its HEAVILY filtered. Why is it you see Blacks on tv being arrested, yet Amber alerts come on a black screen with words and no photo? Filtering.

Most Amber Alerts and Sex Predators are white. Just statting the facts. But Blacks dont go out preaching that. The News has turned us into villians.

Even in the Health Segment of the Local News, Its kills me to see a report on how Blacks are more likely to die from this and that, then they throw some statistics on the screen. Have they studied every Black person in the state or area? Hell no. Everyone knows that stats are exagerrated, thats why Blacks dont trust Doctors. I know as many Whites and Asians with Diabetes as I do Blacks...but I never heard a stat on tv for White and Asians with health problems.

Another funny thing is, if anyone has a South American or Middle Easterner friend, ask them how Americans are viewed on their CNN. They will tell you that Whites are portrayed as Villians who Thirst for War and Power.

Dont believe me? How many Black soldiers have been held captive in the Middle East? Just the one female a few years ago with that Jessica gal. And the chick that went missing in Aruba aint the only case of whites being kidnapped in South America. Only in the US and a few Asian countries (because of the Caste System) are Blacks looked down upon. But the majority of the world notice our contributions to todays culture.

No race is greater that or lees than another race. Thats just common sense. If so, then there'd just be one race. Never believe the crap you see on tv, especially the news...their main objective is to entertain by Fear and False stats. I've never heard of Blacks being murdered, abducted, kidnapped and raped everyday...without the same happening to other races.

I saw a reply about Gun and Booze shops in Black Communities. Thats true to some point. But there are more welfare offices, ABC stores and places like Walmart (that sales wepons) in non-Black communities. I highly doubt that the VT Massacre guy went to a black neighborhood and bought his supplies.

When looking at tv or reading the paper, remember this...Perception is the first stage of Deception.
- One Love to All


[edit on 19-5-2007 by Judaz_Escariot]

Here is what I see. I see people black, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, and whites whining constantly and pointing fingers.

There is not enough personal responsibility it is always someone else's fault, instead of pointing fingers, use those fingers to accomplish something constructive, instead of destructive.

People that take time to point out differences in cultures accomplish separation, what they should do is look for common threads in all cultural structures and work at bridging the gap, in a positive manner.



[edit on 19-5-2007 by Realtruth]

Bleach.

The world got bleached around 2000 BC and this has continued in successive waves.

It's just bleach.

Spawwwn,

You're a racist, through and through. Virtually all of your responses are filled with racist remarks toward other races, even presumably your own. You're on here to raise feathers, i'm sure, because any point you are trying to make is marred with contradictions, transparent faces and figures, and an ignorant intellect.

People like you (not black people) are the reason we're still talking about racism in the world. You're the minority who asks the white culture for something that we have no right paying for. I didn't enslave you, and i won't pay for someone else's crimes.

People like you and racists from every race are the reason we haven't really begun to move on.

Where is the mass media coverage of this?

www.wbir.com...

This should be front page news everywhere, and stay there for a while.

If this had been two white men, who commited this atrocity and the victims were done as these were and they were black, Sharpton, Jackson and the NAACP would have been on this this Christ returned.

If the media is anything it is Anti White. Hell America is turning Anti white.

As a white person with kids, we cannot get federal aid for school, even though all my income is taken to pay bills. When unemployed, I could not get welfare because unemployment cancel out any help. If I was minority or illegal, I and my kids could get grants for college and we could get welfare help and opportunities to get into government programs.

This American system is against the white middleclass American.

The media is biased, in that if a white does a minority wrong in anyway, the story is exploited to hell and back. And as the above link shows, when a minority does something so horrific to a white, it is just passed over for news worthyness.

If the minority population could get over this stereotype crap, and realize that the most important thing is that they are AMERICANS, and are not ILLEGALS, that white AMERICANS are not the problem, but rather just people in the same pot, then maybe we could get this hate put behind us.

Then maybe the media bias would not be so damn obvious.

The Cyfre = I'm not racist i just keep it real. I speak the truth man, it's not my fault if you can't accept it or don't believe what i'm saying could be true. IF you stopped being so offended by the thought of a black person have a problem with the way whites act in certain areas of society, and started actually listening to why i'm mad..you might find that it's not me who's the racist one, but society.

I mean look how blacks are portrayed in movies and TV shows..and look at how whites are portrayed. When you study the media and watch how the characters are developed they can fall into 3 catagories.

#1: The Monkey. Basically all encompasing stereotypical loud, obnoxious black person. Perfect example is the "gossiping" black female that says "oh chile" a lot. Or the "Big Mama" on the block. Or the joke cracking black guy who always makes jokes about his blackness, in action flicks. He's also usually killed before the end of the movie. He could be the guy who chases women all day because he "just loves big booties" or the girl with the 10 ft high weave who files her nails all day. All poor stereotypes and minstrel style characters. These stereotypes are almost as offensive as blackface.

#2: The Oreo. Basically the writers try so hard to make this black guy "normal" that he comes off as a tool. Usually these are the token black characters in shows like One Tree Hill or other predominatley white shows. They are thrown in, not because they wish to represent our society as a whole..but because they think they'll get a black demographic if they put a "positive" immage in there. The problem with these characters is that they are only there to serve as a supporting character. Usually they have very little back story, and are really only there to say "yessum" to the whites. As a whole they are useless, "token" characters.

#3. The Criminal. The classic big black man, who is out to hurt someone. Usually intimidating and very "ghetto" in his mannerisms. These are the murders, rapists, drug dealers, dead beat dads, inmates, and every other negative stereotype you can think of. The saddest part about these characters, is that sometimes they aren't even portrayed that way in fiction, but in real life. The news media loves to make the black guy look like he's out to shank you. Watch the news this week and see how many times you hear the line "suspect is reported to be a black male..". The most dangerous thing about this stereotype is the fact that a lot of people seem to think it's real.

My thing..is why can't there just be NORMAL black people in these shows? Why don't we have more characters like Warrick from CSI? He doesn't really fall into any of those stereotypes, and he dresses the way an average black guy would dress..afro and all. See that's positive. That's equality. He blends so seamlessly with the rest of the characters, that his race is not an issue. It's sad that characters like him are rare in TV shows and movies. IT just further proves what many blacks in this thread are trying to say, and that is that on a whole blacks seem to have less importance, value, and equality in some instances then whites.

Heronumber0 = I'm sorry that it's so hard to get these people to see it from our view. I understand what you are saying man, because i see it for myself. Just today i saw a story of a kidnapped white girl on the news. But when was the last time you saw a story of a kidnapped BLACK girl? I don't even think i remeber seeing a story of a kidnapped black girl in all my years now that i think about it. IF i have,they must have been so few and far between that i can't even remeber their names. That's how little attention they will give an abducted black girl..it's sickening.

And what about that girl who dissapeared in Aruba people were talking about before? Think the media would have spent all those weeks on her story, if she had been black? Of course not. Yeah we all must filter our media..but when are we going to reach the point that missing and murdered black people are just as important as whites in the media? Only time blacks really get media attention in that respect, is when they are shot by the police.

Fact is dead, or missing white women are gold for the media, and police force. There is honestly nothing with the exception of natural disasters, terrorism, and sports..that get as much attention in the media then a white woman in peril. Again this is proving that point, that blacks are valued less than whites in our society. White woman goes missing, they will call the SWAT team, FBI, CIA, and any other orgainization they can, to find her. Black woman goes missing, they police file a report and maybe a few cops will browse it if they're bored. News media won't even bother reporting it because they simply don't care.

So yeah man, i feel your pain and i see the point you are making as clear as water. It's just a shame that we have to be demonized for even suggjesting that there may be some separation of races. I say don't let it get to you though..it's good that people like you will put this stuff out there, it shows that at least on some level blacks on a whole are still striving to help better our race.

Everyone = Basically i'm tired of feeling like every time i want to bring up race that i am wrong. IT's funny because white people actually get offended when you bring up race. It's like "OMG..how DARE you even suggjest that you are not being treated equal! You are a racist and everything you say is biggorty!". What's up with that? Blacks have given you guys spesific examples in this and many other threads, of why we feel we aren't being treated equally on some levels. You pretending racism doesn't exist, and we're all equal..just makes it 10X harder for us to deal with issues like racial profiling, and stereotypes.

Also think of this..the term white trash is actually a racist term toward minorities. Essentially people who are "trash" should be colorless. But the fact is that whites are held in such high regard in soceity, that when a white person doesn't meet even the bare expectations that a white person supposedly should live up to..then they are reduced to the level of minority trash, but they are not minorites so therefore they are WHITE trash. The fact they need to make the white part stand out, is racist because in theory, trashy people are trash, no matter what race.

And people say i'm the one who's racist? I think not.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by Spawwwn]

Sorry to hear that Wolpack, but Whites arent the only ones who dont qualify for welfare. My Grandmother and a few of my unemployed cousins could never get on it either, so Blacks are also excluded with Federal Aid.

*I was rejected by all minority studet loan applications/grants. So I had to depend on dear old Sallie Mae. And I got the double whammy...i'm Black and Native American!

Is America Anti-Middle Class white? I dont think so. I guess it depends on the view of that american. Right now, I think America is more Anti-Middle Eastern & Pro Border Control. And the NAACP and the Rainbow Coalition isnt as effective as people think The only time they're useful is when blatant injustice has been done, such as the black guy being dragged by a truck, the muslim guy who was shot 41 times through his door, and the guy who was gunned down coming out the club in NY...and one of the cops who Sharpton attacked on Cnn was Black.

There are hardly any black corporate owners, so If you dont get the job, why is it an insult that someone black or another race got it instead? Is it too hard to think 'Maybe they're more qualified and their references couldve been awesome."? Why do non minorities say, "I didnt get the job because I'm not black!" LOL thats the craziest/most offensive thing I hear! In my life, I have never heard of Al or Jesse getting someone a job. But they preach "Equal Opportunity." Thats their message.

Spawn, I am a screenwriter for a Literary Agency. The reason Blacks are portrayed the way they are is because the mostly Jewish producers create the shuck-and-Jive character and hire Wiggers to write the part. They'll 'hire' a Black consultant for up-to-date slang, but if a black writer tries to portray himself as being serious, then the producers reject it because in their eyes 'America can't identify with that character'. I was lucky to get my job, because I submitted an example of my work, and my real name is a common name amongst the Hebrews...boy were they shocked when they met me!

I am 29 yrs old and I have never had another black male greet me with a "Wuzzup" like Martin, "Dynamite" like Goodtimes and etc... its all based on the views of few and broadcast to millions.

But thats public tv (especially Fox) but when you go to Cable networks, Blacks have won many awards for Drama. 'Soulfood', 'Oz' and 'The Wire' to name a few, have black writers who had a mixed view of the world unlike public tv, which separates race. I am a fan of Seinfeld, (not Friends) but they didnt even have Black or Hispanic Extras...and in NYC!?

So again, I say to you all...never beleive in what you see on the news, never believe in statistics because they're exaggerated and live life through personal experience. Not the thought of others.
-Peace to you all.

I don't agree with you.
The example you give, of a news station reporting the exact brittish and american casualties but not the exact "other ethnic" ones is normal.
Here in the netherlands when there is an accident like that, in the news especially the european numbers are told.
I am sure in asia they especially name the numbers of their own countries and countries nearby.

Did you have any other examples to support your ideas?
I agree that discimination sucks, and that there still is some towards black people, gay people, etc, but I don't think there's a conspiracy in the media.