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If you carefully analyze the timeline of September 11th and the preceding days, not to mention weeks and months, you have to come to the conclusion that someone let the attack happen.
The motives are a just a war against the Taliban and an oil pipeline system in that region.
Both had been planned for years. This is well-documented in many articles.
Watson ignored at least 4 different FBI agents' warnings including the "urgent cable" of the CIA from August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi.
Frantic conversations between trapped people and authorities during the moments before the World Trade Center towers collapsed on September 11, 2001, are revealed in transcripts of radio and telephone transmissions and in handwritten notes that were released Thursday....
The transcripts were released by the agency that built and ran security at the World Trade Center -- the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.
A good portion of the documents are from handwritten and typed notes of Port Authority police and civilian employees recounting afterward what had happened....
The rest of the documents are transcriptions of conversations over nearly 100 telephone lines and civilian radio channels....
The documents were released after a ruling from Judge Sybil R. Moses as a result of a lawsuit filed by the New York Times seeking access to the 2,000 pages of documents.
# The calls have a peculiar distribution with thirteen calls attributed to Flight 93 passengers, but only zero to one attributed to passengers on any of the other flights. Why would the hijackers be so permissive on that flight but only selectively permissive on others, letting Flight 11 Attendant Madeline Sweeney talk for the entire hijacked portion of its route?
# Experiments conducted with cellphones show that cellphones seldom work at all above 10,000 feet. Several of the alleged Flight 93 calls were made when the plane would still have been near its cruising altitude of 35,000 feet.
# Below 10,000 feet, cellphone calls made from a jet would cause problematic "cascades" in networks of cellsites on the ground. Cascading is caused by a phone at several thousand feet elevation being unable to distinguish which of several cellsites has the strongest signal. This causes the phone to repeatedly select a new channel and try again, possibly leading to a network-wide breakdown. No such cascades were reported on September 11th.
# Family members of the Flight 93 victims reported that charges for the calls never appeared on the cellphone accounts.
# Several calls have the ring of fakery, They include the following:
* The call to Mark Bingham's mother, Alice, from someone claiming to be her son, was very short. After his awkward introduction, the caller failed to respond to Alice's twice-repeated question, and then the line went dead.
* In one of the calls attributed to Barbara Olsen, the caller asked Ted Olsen "What should I tell the pilot?", referring to Chic Burlingame, the captain, who was then supposedly seated in the rear with Barbara. Chic was graduate of Naval Academy and flew F-4s in Vietnam. It seems highly doubtful that he could have been persuaded to hand over the stick without a fight, and agree to sit in the back of the plane, especially when controllers had been broadcasting to pilots that Flight 11 had been hijacked.
* There is no public evidence of recordings for any of the conversations, despite the extended length of some of them, except for Madeline Sweeney's alleged call.
* Sweeney, who was the "anchor" for Flight 11, says: "I see, buildings, water, ... Oh my God!", immediately before the crash, as though she, a Massachusettes-based flight attendant of 12 years, had never seen the Manhattan skyline before. Supposedly she was continuously monitoring the view out a window.
* A person claiming to be Todd Beamer, one of the heroes of the purported Flight 93 passenger revolt, talked to a Verizon supervisor for 13 minutes. Why would Beamer prefer to talk to a stranger than to someone in his own family?
* The alleged Todd Beamer talked like a reporter, giving the blow-by-blow account of the goings on right up to the famous "let's roll".
* Except for the Beamer call, all of the Flight 93 calls were very short, usually just a few sentences, with the caller ending the conversation by saying they had to go, only to call back later in many cases for another short call. Why did they have to go? Were the hijackers enforcing a 1 minute time limit on all conversations?
a. American Airlines Airbus A300 in 1999: As it prepared to
land in Miami the rudder moved back and forth several
times on its own causing the jet to move from side to side.
"Rudder movements extreme" said NTSB.
b. Egypt Air 990 Boeing 767 10/31/99 JFK to Cairo, Egypt
Top Egyptian military aboard. A half hour out of New York
the pilot left the cockpit to go to the toilet. A voice, in
English, is heard on the voice recorder saying "Control it." --then the
plane begins flying counter to the auto-pilot. The co-pilot
turns off the auto-pilot in an attempt to regain control of the plane.
The plane then goes into a dive. The co-pilot is heard calling
on Allah for help. The pilot returns 16 seconds into the dive,
shouting, "What's happening?" Both work to pull up the nose.
The engine goes full throttle. The co-pilot cuts the fuel lines.
The right and left elevators move in opposite directions. The
ailerons on both wings move full up. The pilot orders "Shut
engines." The co-pilot replies: "They're shut." The last words are of the
pilot saying in Arabic "Pull! Pull! Pull!" Suddenly the voice
recorder is simply shut off, just like in Flight 587. The remote-control
crash-jacker had heard enough to know that his mission had succeeded.
c. Flight 587 on 11/12/01 and Airbus A 300 after taking off in New York
suddenly has its vertical stabilizer begin to sway back and forth,
beyond the normal range that even the cockpit controls permit. Flight data record
"unusual sideways movements, called yawing, that slammed passengers
back and forth" as if they were trying to break off a piece of metal by
bending it back and forth. When the rudder was gone the plane might still have
been able to land, except that now the remote crashjacker began playing with
the flaps, ailerons and elevators all at the same time. The strain on the plane
was terrific as the recorder indicates that the plane turned a full ten degrees in one second.
The plane banked left, even thought the recorder shows that the pilots
were working controls to move in the opposite direction. Then the
crashjacker finishes his work, as the recorder indicates that the nose drops and the
voice record is cut off (both the planes power source and the emergency battery source).
The stresses caused by these beyond s.o.p. parameters -- a full throttle dive and
then the flaps suddenly put down -- caused the engines to break off.
Originally posted by ausconspiracies
sorry but i no longer wish to take part, i have just gotten a new job and that is taking up a considerable amount of my time. once again sorry.
Originally posted by Ðany
Sorry for stepping on yer toes there with that post about the planes being remote controlled EastCoastKid, but our subjects kinda go hand in hand.
If the phone calls aren't real, to me, that means there were no hijackers because the Todd Beamer call claims that they are going to fight back against the hijackers and if that's not real, then where's the proof of the hijackers?
Also, it seems that every call made from the planes to the ground start with the person calling giving their full name, why would they give their full name to their mother or partner when surely their parnter would know who it is by them just saying their first name?
Just doesn't make sense.
[Edited on 6-1-2004 by Ðany]
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
It claimed that those calls were ipossible technically to make. Had what looked like solid scientific evidence. If I can find it I'll share. The writer claimed that the calls were actually made by CIA operatives. They brought up the same point you made regarding the strange calls.
How many people here have made calls from a flight?
Were Flight 93 Cell Phone Calls Possible?
The vast majority of phone calls attributed to passengers from the commandeered jetliners were Flight 93 cell phone calls. Among the oddities of these calls, one that can be evaluated experimentally is the unlikelihood that such calls were even possible, given the altitude and speed of the airplane, and the nature of cell phone networks.
To the extent that the cellphones used in this experiment represent types in general use, it may be concluded that from this particular type of aircraft, cellphones become useless very quickly with increasing altitude. In particular, two of the cellphone types, the Mike and the Nokia, became useless above 2000 feet. Of the remaining two, the Audiovox worked intermittently up to 6000 feet but failed thereafter, while the BM analog cellphone worked once just over 7000 feet but failed consistently thereafter. We therefore conclude that ordinary cellphones, digital or analog, will fail to get through at or above 8000 feet abga.
It should be noted that several of the calls rated here as "successes" were difficult for the Recorder to hear, witness description such as "breaking up" or "buzzy."