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Russia/USSR's death toll on the world: 167,643,000++

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posted on May, 16 2007 @ 07:27 AM
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Deaths attributable to Russia/USSR

Russo-Japanese War (1904-1905): 130,000
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World War 1 (1914-1918): 21,000,000
www.firstworldwar.com...
(Russia butted into a war between Serbia and Austria-Hungary, this forced Germany to come to the rescue of Austria-Hungary. France had to declare war on Germany because it had a pact with Russia, Britain had a pact with France and America was recruited by Britain)

Russian Civil War (1917-1922): 9,000,000
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Under Stalin (1924-1953): 20,000,000 (disputed)
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Spanish Civil War (1936-1939): 465,000
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(Communism)

Russo-Finnish War (1939-1940): 140,000
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World War 2 (1939-1945): 60,000,000
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(This is assuming Russia started WW1 and since WW2 was a direct result of WW1, it’s attributed to Russia/USSR)

Greek Civil War (1943-1949): 158,000
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(Communism)

Yugoslavia, Tito's Regime (1944-1980): 200,000
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(Communist regime)

Chinese Civil War (1945-1949): 2,500,000
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(Communism spreading from the USSR to China)

Romania (1948-1989): 150,000
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(Communist regime)

Mao Zedong’s Regime (1949-1975): 40,000,000
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Korean War (1950-1953): 2,800,000
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(Communism)

Kim Il-Sung/Jong-Il’s Regime (1948-present): 1,600,000 (disputed)
www.hawaii.edu...

Second Indo-China/Vietnam War: (1960-1975): 3,500,000
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(Communism)

Eritrean War of Independence (1961-1991): 2,000,000
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(Communism)

Angolan Civil War (1974-2002): 500,000
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(Communism)

Cambodia/Khmer-Rouge (1975-1978): 1,500,000
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(Communism)

Afghanistan (1979-1989): 1,000,000
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USSR arms Hussein
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Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988): 1,000,000
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Total:

167,643,000

[edit on 16-5-2007 by Cthulwho]



posted on May, 16 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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im at work and dont have time to address all these figures, but here goes.


Originally posted by Cthulwho
Deaths attributable to Russia/USSR

Russian Civil War (1917-1922): 9,000,000
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The russian civil war between the white guard and the reds was a class war. The whites trying desparetly to protect the existing social order of plutocracy (With the backing of many Capitalist states including the US), and the reds pushing for a more egalitarian reform. Blaming this solely on communism is an error.



Under Stalin (1924-1953): 20,000,000 (disputed)
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one instance that comes to mind is "stalin fingers" where churchhill asked stalin how many died in the famine, stalin held up his hands as suggesting he didnt want to approach the subject, chuchill took it too mean 10 million.



World War 2 (1939-1945): 60,000,000
en.wikipedia.org...
(This is assuming Russia started WW1 and since WW2 was a direct result of WW1, it’s attributed to Russia/USSR)

you sure are leaving out a number of socio-politico reasons for the start of both these wars. Your being way too reductionist.



Angolan Civil War (1974-2002): 500,000
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(Communism)

UNTIA had CIA support and backing, once again an entrenched state apparatus with a class perogitive crushing an egalitarian reformist movement.


Afghanistan (1979-1989): 1,000,000
en.wikipedia.org...

Once agian same as above, the Kabul government was beseiged by the mujahideen, which was supported by US leaders. On one side (the kabul government) were the people of afganistan, struggling for social reforms, and on the otherside (the mujahideen) were the feudal lords and tribesmen trying to protect their class perogitives.


USSR arms Hussein
en.wikipedia.org...

US put him in power to crush iraqi social revolution, and crush it he did.


You drop a lot of numbers and then just put a foot note under them saying "communism" but completely ignore the class functions of communism and capitalism.

Of those wars, in how many were the people of those nations fighting for social reforms through modern socialism or communism? And how many compradors and dictators were reciving funds from western capitalist nations such as the US to defend the existing social order of exploitation?



 
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