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reply posted on 15-5-2007 @ 07:22 PM by wcssar
Here is a list of stuff I thought would be useful in some/most situations. Of course weather you are talking rural/wilderness/or urban survival would make a lot of difference. the problem I had with most store bought kits is the stuff is junk a cheap flashlight might do you for a hour or so , Mylar space blanket ,should with care last the night, but I thought a kit should be reusable and have quality stuff but as you can see it isn’t cheap. you also have to know how to use the stuff, which means training which is the one tool you can't lose (well not quickly) note the number at the end of the item is the/a price.

survival kit list

Gerber tracer headlamp 1aaa cs 16 4 pack batteries lithium

maglight led minimaglight 2aa whs 18 8 packbattries lithium

survival tabs 15 day food supply st 28

gerber multi tool cs 40

victorinox swiss army knife cs 30

sog field pup knife cs 36

straight claw 16 oz hammer hws 10

wonder bar prybar hws 10

stanley 15-033 jab saw hws 10 assorted extra blades, wood metal, and carbide 2-5.00 2.50-5.00 each

multi-bit screwdriver hws 10

nuwick 120 hour candle cm 12

magnesium fire starter cm 7

water proof matches cm 4

fleece sleeping bag cm 30

all weather sports blanket cm 12

aqumira water treatment cm 11

nalgene 64 oz water bottle cm 10

2 nalgene 16 oz water bottle cm 14

oilcamp space saver cup cm 6

kwik-cook folding stove cm 7

soloist first aid kit cm 15

storm whistle cm 6

kelty basalt daypack cm 40

100 feet 550 paracord hws 10

CM= CAMPMORE
HWS=HARDWARE STORE
CS=CUTLERYSHOPPE

Total 392.00 OR SO DEPENDING ON ?

The one thing you have to understand is survival is a test. And its pass or fail, not graded on a curve. If after the ordeal no matter how horrible it was you are alive you pass, and no matter how comfortable you were up until they find your body you fail. there are too many skills to discuss easily because the place you find yourself in trouble can vary wildly so the main skill is learning and applying that learning to what happened, tool are great but the one tool you can not lose is your mind( well you can but then it's not important.)


reply posted on 16-5-2007 @ 12:00 PM by Ahabstar
For a BOB space and weight is very important as you have to carry what you need. Total weight 6-10lbs. depending

Quality folding pocket knife for small jobs
Quality fixed blade knife for larger jobs
Whetstone to keep edges sharp
Fence pliers (old time multi-tool that has more use than a Gerber)
1-2 spools of 8-10 lbs test Spiderwire fishing line (pack 2-3 or more if you can in the BOB as it has many uses such as ropemaking and bowstring making)
6-8 inch quality flat head screwdriver (Craftsman, Snap-on quality or go with a 10-12-18 inch in the BOB if you can or on your belt for prying and traditional)
26 or 28 gage wire for snares (squirrel, rabbit)
Hatchet (not as fast as a bowsaw but has more uses)
Rectangular wood/metal file (large jobs, slower than bolt cutters but more uses)
Tri-corner wood/metal file (small jobs and finished detail work)
Quality needlenosed pliers (for smaller detailed jobs)
Small diary filled will useful information ahead of time.

If I had to make a break for it and only could take one item it would have to be the folding pocket knife but since I always have one in my pocket the top choice would the hatchet. Second choice would be one of the files or the fence pliers whichever I could grab first. It is always good to have a reference book but it far better to commit it to memory. One of the keys to long term survival is knowledge.

Tools are very handy to have but most anything you think of can be fabricated from items in your environment. Finding an abandoned car is a treasure trove of tools and materials. Clothing can be fashioned from fabric seats. Tire irons make good pry bars. With a standard tool box inside you can take parts like seat springs wiring and rework them to useful items. The sheet metal of the car can be bended and folded into various items. An abandoned house is of course a goldmine of pots and pans and all kinds of houshold items.

Even if dumped naked in the forest, by using the evironment you can fashion all the tools and weapons that you need with time and thought. But it is always best to have something to with you from the start.


reply posted on 17-5-2007 @ 10:03 AM by dr_strangecraft
I won't duplicate the stuff others have listed.


Mine has a small camp saw. Not for building, but for cutting firewood and clearing brush.

Hatchet. Really useful for splitting wood. It's faster than chopping. I also use it to dress/skin game.

I have lighters, matches, and a flint/steel kit.

Guitar strings, for snares

Garden trowel

Dandelion puller. I use it for a lightweight crowbar.

Big screwdriver

Some kind of japanese gardening tool, a cross between a sickle, a knife, and a hoe. My BOB bag is also used by me when prospecting. . . .

Stick of "quickSteel." Can repair radiator leaks (short term--it gets too hot!), and water, fuel tanks, oil pans. I once made an oil pan drain plug entirely out of quickSteel, but that's another thread . . .

Small pistol and ammo. I carry more than one backup; again, I take it when prospecting, so that I don't have to play "finders keepers" with anyone I meet in the woods.

Insect repellent (in Spanish! - bought it in mexico last year . . .)

Suntan lotion

Feminine pads. Frau Dr. put them in there, but they are for staunching blood flow if an artery gets severed, or to otherwise pack a wound. What they carry on ambulances is essentiall the same thing as a feminine pad.

Condoms. a lot of uses besides the obvious.

Medical tape. Non=allergenic, for use in "make your own BIG bandaid" drills. For use with f-pads.

Potassium Iodide Tablets. I'm over 40, and so radioactive Iodine will not kill me before my years of smoking will have. But the wife and kids need them if a dirty nuke goes off. The russians built (and "lost") a lot of small nukes in this category. I figure several are in the hands of terrorists by now, just trying to get them to the USA. . . .

Toilet paper, moist towelettes.

compass with magnifying glass--can start fires as well!!

Handheld LW-MW-SW radio, crank powered.

Can't remember what else (I'm at work).


reply posted on 6-6-2007 @ 06:57 AM by Patron Saint
I'm sure I'm going over others replies...but if your going to create a survival kit, you might as well do it right. The very first thing you need to do is "educate" yourself in how to survive in case scenarios. There are various books/articles on the web, as well as military training/courses on survival. Knowledge is key in this scenario...

Survival Kit:
1. Pencil & Waterproof paper: You may find "waterproof paper" at any Army surplus store, or PX. These items can be very useful for making notes to yourself or to others who may be searching for you.
2. Leatherman/Swiss Army Knife: (blade, scissors, file, small screwdriver, can opener, tweezers, etc) Essential for a "survival" kit.
3. 550 lb.test Para Cord (also found at Army/Navy surplus stores/PX): The uses of Para Cord in a survival situation are too numerous to fully list.
4. Small lighter/water-proof matches: I prefer the MRE water-proof matches, but you can make the call.
5. Magnesium/Flintbar Firestarter (also used as signaling device): Just shave the magnesium with a knife (or file if you're carrying a multi-tool that has a file), collect all the shavings into a pile about the size of a dime. Just rest the corner of the bar right in the pile of magnesium shavings and run the NON-SHARPENED corner of your knife down the flint. Practice this a bit...it's real easy to get the hang of. The magnesium ignites with a flame like a blow torch, and will burn for several seconds. Keep your tinder and fuel ready to pile on, or build the tinder pile around the magnesium in such a way as to still allow the magnesium to be hit with sparks.
6. 30/50ft Fishing Line and 6/12 Fish Hooks.
7. Small hand mirror (signaling, grooming).
8. Compass.
9. Small sewing kit: Excellent for mending clothing and other items
10. A few safety pins.
11. Survival Blanket
12. Painter's Tarp 9'x7: This is a thin plastic sheet that can be used for a variety of purposes. It can be used with a little para cord as a Tarp Shelter, or as a waterproofing for the roof of whatever you construct for a shelter. It can be laid out to collect rainwater, used as a poncho, or employed as a Solar Still. This item can be purchased at your local hardware store for a couple dollars.
13. Water purifying straw or Water Purification Tablets:
www.nitro-pak.com... here.
14. Duct tape or 100MPH (military duct tape).
15. Suture/Surgical Kit with small 1st aid kit. Must have, from motrin to deep cuts...it's got you covered.
16. Ziploc freezer bags.

A few things to remember:
1. Improvise to Survive: The five rules of improvisation are:
1. Determine what you really need.
2. Inventory your available materials, man made and natural.
3. Consider all alternatives.
4. Select the best one that takes the least amount of time, energy and materials.
5. Do it, making sure it is safe and durable.
2. Shelter: Shelter is a basic necessity.
3. No Substitute for Water, NONE.
4. Food, a low priority. You can survive without food for weeks without permanent side effects. After the first day or two, which can be difficult psychologically and physically as your mind tries to "encourage" you to eat, your body and mind adjust and it is more easily tolerated. Food can be an asset, particularly in cold climates, and is good for morale; but be cautious and careful about obtaining it in the wild if you do not know how. Plants offer the most common and ready wild food source. Some basic rules to stay safe (there are always exceptions, but don't risk it unless you are positive): Avoid all plants with white sap, tiny hairs, umbrella shaped flowers and white or green berries. Red berries are less risky, but eat only if you recognize them as safe. Black or blue berries are generally safe. Aggregate berries, like raspberries, are always edible. Single fruits on a stem are generally safe. Avoid mushrooms and fungi, plants with bulb roots and fruits from plants with shiny leaves.
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