(Historic) Vote in Texas to Ban Landlords from Renting to Illegals

(Historic) Vote in Texas to Ban Landlords from Renting to Illegals

caribjournal.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

I wonder if this will start a civil war in Texas? the illegal alien population is huge there and landlords have a tough job ahead of them to weed out the illegal's

caribjournal.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Here is another source link for the story, looks like it's gonna be a hot summer in Texas in more ways than one.

www.chron.com...

Looks like a good step forward and I don't see why it'd be overturned by the courts (at least in the end).

But until there's a better proof of citizenship/legal residency document is provided by the federal government, I think it'll be hard to enforce. The best thing available is a passport, but most people don't have one.

The Author of the actual story not the poster should have done some home work. It might be historic for Texas but certainly not historic for the US.

Still a good story and I posted a duplicate because the search function failed. my post contains links to articles on Hazelton PA, Green Bay Wisconsin where they too have passed similar laws. Now the question is will they hold up in a court of law?

I grew up in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex in the '70's and even back than the city of Farmer's Branch was known for its divisiveness. Most of the smaller cities in Dallas county allowed alcohol sales but FB didn't. It had one of the first towns to be used by folks fleeing from Dallas mostly for tax reasons. Everyone thinks that folks leave major urban centers because of crime and other problems associated with such areas. Ha! They left to avoid paying higher taxes on their properties. The state of Texas allows cities to levy their own taxes on real estate, big cities, big taxes. A crackerbox house within 10 minutes of downtown Austin used to go for $30-40K just 15 years ago, now they are going for 3-5x as much. A house sized condo with parking spaces now goes for $1.2 million. This law was passed to run the lower income folks out of Farmers Branch. I can almost guarantee that several members(or someone close to them) of the city council have rental properties which they want to raise rental fees on. Farmer's Branch is within an easy commute of downtown Dallas. Their motives are financial not patriotic.

CRG, I don't know if you still live in Texas, but most Texans, even hispanic ones, are becoming tired of people crossing our national borders illegally. They are also tired of people who don't even have a green card getting a job that could go to someone else.

So, I don't know that I agree that it is necessarily a financial issue.

SoT, this issue is very much a financial one or at least one that is economic in nature. I am Tejano but I've long understood the problem will never be fixed on this side of the border unless you can somehow give the businesspersons and corporations who hire illegals a conscience because its their greed that has fueled this migration. The real fix is to bring the Spanish colonial economies of Mexico and other Latin American economies into the 21st century. Mexico is on the verge of social collapse and revolution but we don't hear a peep about from the mainstream media. At least 2 of Mexico's states have armed insurrections in them that I know of. If a civil war breaks out in Mexico, there will be even more refugees fleeing from there to the US. Until Mexicanos realize that their society cannot survive under its current patron/peon economic system, there will be no significant change to the current economic flight being made from Mexico by those Mexicanos who can't find a job that pays a living wage.

This battle has been going on a while.

Originally last year, the city council dropped the idea because LULAC started protesting in their streets. Popular demand and a local DJ brought the council back on line with the ordinance. Not to mention, the vote was put to the residents.

The OP article’s lead line isn’t exactly correct. Hazelton, Pa passed very similar legislation back in 2006 stopping landlords renting and the like…but it has been constantly challenged by various “rights” organizations.

Recently I read and article claiming that there are a number of Texas towns watching what happens in Farmer's Branch because there is serious thought in other municipalities in considering similar ordinances…even down to homeowners’ associations.

I played golf the other day with the president a large homeowners’ association and his homeowners are requesting a vote on only displaying US and US State flags in their neighborhoods. Apparently back in February on Washington’s Birthday/Presidents Day a couple of homeowners flew the Mexican flag and chapped the neighborhood. If they do it, I’m sure it will be in the news.

mg

Any idea how those challenges are washing out? While I agree that something needs to be done, I don't see how the law can restrict the property rights of illegal immigrants; just as they have the right to buy cigarettes, they have the right to enter into contracts. On the other hand, the right to enter into a contract is limited; you can't enter into a contract for prostitution. But that has to do with restricting the scope of the right, not who has the right. So it will be interesting to see what the courts decide.

Well, to an extent I agree. I think a lot has come to light, not so much concerning Mexico necessarily, but our present border issue with Mexico.

I am sure you have heard about the foiled plot to bomb Fort Dix. Well, three of the guys that was involved in this plot were illegal immigrants. Now, while they were not hispanic, guess where they crossed the border at. They crossed from Mexico.

While I don't think that putting military personnel will completely eliminate the the problem, I do believe that it will alleviate much of it.

I like you,think that the only real solution may be to stabilize the economies of south and central America. I just don't see how America can do it without taking away from its own citizenry. I don't think Americans will support a blank check to south and central American countries to boost their economies.

Mexico has a man in office who see, at least right now, to have the backing of the Mexican populace. He has cracked down on much of the drug cartels in Mexico and that is a beginning.

I love hispanic people, but I think America is quickly reaching a point where it is going to have to do something about its current immigration. I am not talking just about hispanic, there are undocumented immigrants from Asia, Europe and all around the world. We as a nation, considering the present circumstances in the world, can no longer welcome any and everyone in our country with open arms.





[edit on 13-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

You're already on my bad side mentioning HOA's and associating with their president. Nothing but a bunch ne'er-do-well lawn nazi's. HOA's are just another way the lawyers have figured out how to stick it to the consumer. I learned my lesson with my first house. I'll never own a house within city limits or within a subdivision again. I'm not going to pay anyone ever again to trespass upon my property to check to see if my back yard has C& R violations while I was off in the Middle East on military deployment.

If a person want to fly the flag of the USSR or the PRC in front of their house 24/7 brilliantly lit with floodlights, it's their 1st Amendment right to do so and you can feel free to be offended all you want . What if was a Confederate flag? Those folks advocated slavery of human beings based on skin color and armed rebelllion against the USA? Don't see anything could be more offensive but you see the damn thing everywhere including places that didn't have a damn thing to do with the Civil War.

Is the new law discriminatory? Hell yeah it is. It smacks of Fascism. What happened to being a good neighbor in Texas and minding your own business? I doubt seriously that it will even make it out of the local state district courts without being struck down. Some fear mongering radio baffoon at KLIF pushed this? Kinky was right! Most of my fellow Texans have turned into Yankee wussies!

The link provides some information…Here is another link with some info, but the current status is not really clear on any sites.



You must not play golf very often. Unless one arrives with a complete foursome for a tee time the Marshal will include stragglers and singles etc. and one usually converses during the game, yes? I never once stated I knew him prior...in fact I can not remember his last name.

The rest of the information I posted was just that…information. I purposefully withheld my opinions on these types of city ordinances. They are a fact of life and the feds are doing next to nothing about the problem, locals governments are doing what thier constituents desire...


mg

Geeeze ... this should have been the law across the entire country anyways. I (mistakenly) thought it was .. that anyone who hired illegals or rented to them, were in trouble with the law. It's only recently that I have learned that these laws, which I thought were already in place, were not there.

They should be there.
They should have been there all along.

Peace, MG.

There are certain things that just set me off like a grenade, HOA's are near the top of list.

I don't play golf. I shoot guns while hunting and competitively for recreation. I also like camping and fishing.

The question I would like to pose to the good people of Farmer's Branch, Texas and the rest of the anti-immigration crowd, have they ever been victimized personally by an illegal immigrant? I would bet they haven't. They complain about the burden that these folks place on local govt's but when they're all sent back to Mexico or where ever, I can hear their howls when the price of eating out rises nearly 100% in almost every restaurant . Labor prices for construction will put new house prices out of the reach for nearly 50% of the mostly young folks who need them for their families. Most meat processing plants will go bankrupt within a year or two as well because of the labor shortages and employee turnover. I could go on for days but you can't make these folks understand that there's a much larger economic as well as social picture going on then what's happening in their local community.

Crgintx,
Although your figuers have some merrit here is something that is backed up with some facts.


tulsa world

How does this number of deportable aliens compare with the total population of prisoners percentage wise? In the cases where they committed a crime against a fellow countryman. say they robbed or killed another Mexican. They should be turned over to Mexican authorities as Mexico takes a dim view of people committing crimes against its citizens in foreign countries even by the crime was committed by one its own citizens. They would much rather serve time in an Oklahoma jail than a Mexican one. Mexicans are acutely aware that if they commit a heinous murder of someone in Texas, that they will likely face the death penalty. I noticed far more illegal-on-illegal violent crime in Arizona when I lived there than I do in Texas.

I think that the Oklahomans should send the criminal's native country a bill for their incarceration.

This test in Texas regarding illegals only prove one thing and that is that American citizens are tired of what is going on with illegals.

While the profit makers wants to safeguard their source of income it seems that most American law abiding citizens doesn't give a crap if they lose money or not.

This bring another issue, if a referendum is to be done for the entire nation to say yes or not to immigration you can pretty much tell what the results will be, no wonder congress is just sitting on the issue and working behind doors.

Interesting.

I just want to see the results of this "patriotic" effort to rid the country of Illegal aliens. When you walk into a restaurant and you end up paying 2x what you normally do to eat out, since Americans won't be taking these jobs for under minimum wage, that is if your job hasn't already been shipped off to India or Pakistan by then and you can still afford to eat there. IBM laid off thousands and replaced them offshore. Lets see how you are going to like your OJ in the morning when it costs 6.00 a half gallon, and people now complain about 3.00 a gallon of gas. You will see negative results from this witch-hunt. You all want your cake and to be able to eat it cheaply, well its going to cost you a pretty penny in the end.


Pie

ThePieMaN

I don't know about you but when I go to a restaurant, and that is not very often.

When I pay over one hundred dollars on my meal, guess? what I expect a chef in the kitchen and he better no be an illegal.

When it comes to anything else, is nothing that fear mongering about how it will be without them.

We are going to pay for everything not matter what, we are paying right now and they are still all over.

Braking the law should not be applauded, it should be punished.