I'd have to disagree, I've sen a few mentions of him.

The only reason I think he is'nt talked about all the time, is because he's not really seen
as a definite winner, just because he does good in some opinion polls, does'nt mean
he's going to actually do good in voting.

I personally refuse to vote for him, as I highly dislike him and nearly everything he advocates.

I'm saying this as sort of a neutral entity, just trying to be helpful, so please don't think otherwise.


I don't know about other people, but I generally don't really believe things that come from the infowars website.

Originally posted by iori_komei
I'm saying this as sort of a neutral entity, just trying to be helpful, so please don't think otherwise.


I don't know about other people, but I generally don't really believe things that come from the infowars website.

You are being civil and thus, you are fine. I just don't understand not even mentioning the guy. I understand that they won't get as much coverage as Rudy or Romney, but who would get that much press unless they've been in as many scandals/flip flops as those those two guys.

There is an almost complete and obvious media blackout regarding Mr.Paul and his 'pro"constitution ethics, I am finding it hard to believe that anyone with even moderate brain functions can not see this and where this 'election" is headed!

I have known about Ron Paul for over 20 years now. I also know about his constitutional stance and his knowlege of the money issues.

Ron Paul from the begining has been for constitutional money systems which is precisely why both dominant political partys dont want him around and will use their shills...the media to prevent coverage of him. If Ron Paul by some fluke won the election both of the partys would be in big trouble since Ron Paul does not believe in unlimited goverenment spending by creating new moneys through deficits.

This would automatically put limits on government and whoever is really pulling the puppet strings of our government by limiting their ability to feed at the public trough.

If you want limited government as per the constitution the only way to get it is to cut the purse strings. Ron Paul knows this.

One of the reasons Ron Paul and others are against the Iraq war is that it is an excuse and justification for continued deficits or deficit spending. The difference here is that the Democrats are pissed because the war limits their social deficit spending for votes verses the war/republican deficit spending for votes. Take your pick..how do you want the government to cheat you out of the purchasing power of your dollar....through social programs(democrats) or war programs(republicans). There really is no difference.
IN Vietnam, American rebuilt that country and brought it into the 20th century with a massive infusion of technology and moneys and then to make sure it did not go anywhere without permission ...Vietnam was put into storage by giving it all to the communists. Communists were the perfect storage tool/medium. They are way to stupid to make an economy function. A Gaurantee of no no econommic progress....ie...storage.
In Iraq, in like manner, the nation will be brought into the 21st century on the public purse and then to make sure no one else gets it it will be turned over to the Islamics for storage....ie ..no economic progress. Thus keeping the resources off the market and in storage. Yes oil was found on and offshore of Vietnam too. Radical Islam it appears is the new tool to replace the communists and keep nations and their resources in storage so as not to depress markets and of course prices.

Ron Paul knows this, I am sure. He also knows that wars have economic consequences and the Generals often take over the course of wars if they were not actually running them from the begining. A hijacking if you like..by the Generals. General Motors, General Electric , General Foods, General Dynamics and all the other Generals of industry and their creditors..banks and insurance companys who insure the loans.

This knowlege on he part of Ron Paul makes him Persona Non Grata in certain political circles. The danger of Ron Paul is that he will educate way to many people outside of the rigged market of ideas which constitute the two dominant political partys. You might actually get enough knowlege to realize the king has on no clothes and begin to think and behave outside the desired rigged political system.

Remember something else..outside of the media and politics..Public education is paid for or financed by the body politic. You will not get this view on Ron Paul or economics from them. All three are one and the same to keep your brain in storage and only functioning along predetermined, predictable, gauranteed paths...right into the voting booth.

Neither democrats or republicans want Ron Paul around. They must squelch him in the market of ideas.

By the way...Ron Paul came up in Politics with another man who was elected to the House of Represenatives..who also knew of the money scam being run by our goverenment through wars and social programs. This mans name was Larry Mcdonald. Larry Mcdonald was killed in the Korean Air Lines shoot down in the 1980s by a Russian Fighter somewhere off Japan. As I recall Larrry Mcdonald was one of the represenatives from the state of Georgia.

This should give you an idea of how hardball this profession is and always will be.

All the news media are deceiving you on Ron Paul. They dont want you to know any more about Ron Paul than they desire to let you know.

Thanks,
Orangetom

[edit on 12-6-2007 by orangetom1999]

Originally posted by iori_komei
I personally refuse to vote for him, as I highly dislike him and nearly everything he advocates.

care to elaborate on why? So far, he is the ONLY candidate I would even consider voting for, and the only topic I don't agree with him on is abortion, but it's such a small issue, it makes no difference compared to all the other candidates stances on other topics.

wow, awesome video.

unfort, even with 100% of the public opinion in his favor, presidents are not elected by popular vote.

good find zysin5, i am a dem i guess,but after seeing and folling RP i find myself leaning toward his way of thinking.

i think he shows the true meaning of what it is to be a patriot of this country... i will vote for him.

Fox news should be sued for blatant fabrication that effects not only 1 man's future but an entire nations future.
The medias blackout of Ron Paul and Fox's obvious smear campaign should and is the 100% PROOF that the members of this site are always asking for.
There IS a mass conspiracy in this country, the media IS controlled, we ARE sheep.
I need no other proof, something else is controlling this country they have absolute control of our media and thus absolute control over any and all citizens who do not have internet or who do and have no desire to find other sources for news. (Which is my parents and grandparents generations, I am 33.)
I was raised believing I was free and should feel lucky to have been born in the US, so sad that it is all just a facade.
I pray Ron Paul wins by a landslide but I also worry for him and his family, but I am sure he has a plan, I am sure he has thought this all thru before he attempted this. I feel a man this knowledgeable hasnt played all his cards yet, I believe he knows "they" will not take this lieing down and that he will have to have some powerful protection, maybe he will be our saving grace, maybe there is a calvary we don't know about yet.

[edit on 6-9-2007 by SEEWHATUDO]

I suggest with the shift in our consciousness and the new outlets of getting the word out by people like ourselfs..

If you have the set up, make a you tube video about how you feel about the Blatent lies! And address they in a very level headed fasion.

You can go out and post signs in your local area! I have placed my Ron Paul 08 signs, have you? Look, its not going to be easy, no one said that, just a little more effort on our part here! Im 30 years old, and this is the peak of my life.

This is Americas last chance!! IMO If this election fails, and things stay the course, well may who ever you or what you belive in, my give mercy to our souls. And know this is what the people want. Nw its up to them, to make the next move..

But if you didnt atleast try.. You cant complain when the lights go out, and you lose you're rights, and live in an Empire!!

Here is their email, send in an email, let them know how you feel.

Inside USA- FOXaroundtheworld@foxnews.com

Outside USA- yourcomments@foxnews.com

As you know, they expect Ron Paulites to be rabid, with no sense of logic.
Please use tackt when you write them. It may not matter at all, but as it seems to me, WE the PEOPLE are getting to them, its affecting something people! They dont just start blacking out a man who has new ideas, and different agendas. They are not going to just lie down and let Paul win.

Do what you do best ATS! Be brillant, and tell them how you feel, in a manner that does not feed the beast!!

[edit on 6-9-2007 by zysin5]

Ron Paul would totally win if he was in the media half as much as Hillary's haircut or dress color. How could you not want someone like him for president? He actually cares about America and wants to make a real difference. Sadly the cards are stacked against him.The only thing I can do is put in my vote and pray.

I wasn't even thinking about voting until I heard about Ron Paul. I went to his website, and read his posted views, and agreed with them 100%. Now my only question is, does he really believe those views, or are they just talking out of the side of his mouth so to speak?

From what I have been reading so far, and the media blight on him, I think he is more than likely the real deal. I'll be voting for him. I'm not ever watching Fox news or any other media news again. I'd rather come here and get my news.