Originally posted by tyranny22
interesting thread. not sure of how we got here from the title, but since we're on the subject ... you guys seem to know of ancient civilizations and
their beliefs...
what's up with the Sumarians? what's the snake represent in this culture? also, why are many of their statures depicting abnormally large eyes? does
it have something to do with their religion?
do masons study these cultures?
OK ...
Bare with me I am highyly intoxiacated! and I don't lioke to come onto ATS when I been drinking the rum and the beer and the other good shiiiiii
didnt say it.
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OK....
Tamuhuhuh .. I don;'t like you becuase you link to much, you copy from the same website (Which I still think you own) and you always go { }
that far off topic.
How the bloody heelllll did this thread get 2 pages.
What the hell is the topic? The Mecca stone?
Here is what the Mecca stone is without the Gnostic crap (sorry Tamuhuhuhuh) Its a freaking metirotite worshiped by some Arabs before islams.. then
mr. Mahamadondon said "Its from GOD!!!" and every one was like "ooooo" and then now every one wants to rub it and kiss it, maybe like it, hell if
I was there, id tounge the hell outa the space rock!
It was a natural phenomenon that was used by some nut case to spread the ideas of his own
personal religion that he got after visiting Judea.
there is no "word" meaning mixing all that crap. Here is why..
Prefixes and suffixes in various languages have many meanings, to say that because one language used such and such which "sounded" alike but not
actually spelled using the actaul same "alphebet" and then mixing it together after thousands of years --- does not mean the same thing as it did in
the ancient language..
Not to mention the ancient languages had many meanigns for the same word..
Evident in all languages, from Latin to English to ancient languages of Sumarian and so forth...
To say "Ka" meant something in one language is NOT to say it means the same in another. Simply doesn't work that way..
Unless the language is a direct descendant it is possible, however Arabic is a descendant from Aramaic and other Semitic (northern Arab race)
languages, like HEBREW
Originally posted by Tamahu
Masonic lodges were keepers of this knowledge of The Great Arcanum before degenerating into elitist social clubs that lost the meanings of their own
symbols and rituals.
Elitist social club eh? What "club" does mr. mrs. Tamaahhhhuh be,lgin to? Nothing.
Masonry is FAR FROM "Elitist" .. most of the men are hard working middle class men.. most of the guys in my lodge (and I belong to a prominent lodge
in my area) are second shift working engineers. The lodge was actually founded to support second shift working men from NCR.
ANY ONE who says Masonry is "Elitist" simply has no idea what "Masonry" is at all.. and Tamahuh doesn't know what Masonry is, even though he is
VERY versed in.. well, at least in quoting another website.. gnostic teachings will NOT explain Masonry, only Masonry will. The teachings have always
been the same.
So you think the masons have lost thier own knowledge?
The "knowledge" is alive and well within all lodges of men who know what to look for.. it is easily discerned among the teachings and degrees... the
simplist way to find it, is to not look for something "grandeur" but instead humble.
what's up with the Sumarians? what's the snake represent in this culture? also, why are many of their statures depicting abnormally large eyes? does
it have something to do with their religion?
do masons study these cultures?
I think im uquoting outa order but the steady flow of beer says, what the freaking hell.
What does the SNAKE represent within the Sumarian Culture..
Well Tamaugauhuh got it right...
Its actually fascinating.. Mayans, Aztec, Celts, Egyptians, Sumarians, almost all major civilizations had the Snake in their culture... and it all
meant just about the same thing..
It represented the Milky Way to be frank.. though each culture identified it more specifically with other beliefs and gods. In Sumerian, among
others, it represented the Year Wheel (Celt) or their calander.. the movement of stars and the passing of time..
It also meant among many civilizations the idea of "knowledge" or "wisdom" ..
In Celtic and several others, it represented the dominance of the Female in the culture, or at least the idea of Female worship... eh "godess" is I
think the term im looking for.. yet it also at the same time represented manly power, perhaps a symbol of female / male equality. Kings would wear it
on Celtic crowns, while Woman would also wear it as a sign of female fertility and power..
The "meanings" can truly only be discerned through how we find it, where we find it, and what we find it on..
In Egypt (Amun-RA The Sun took the from of a Snake on Earth) and Sumaria it was in representation of "Life" power and the (with the tail in its
mouth) calender and the signs of re-birth. you also see in Ancient Egyptian Culture, among Pharaohs Isis, a fire breathing Cobra, worn around the
head of the Egyptian emperors.. this is the origin of the "Third eye" so to speak, knowledge of the other-world.. Uraeus I think but don't trust
meh spelling.
It should also be noted that only in Christianity (and Judaism) is the Snake representing Temptation.. evil.. wicked souls and the devil ect.
Ouroboros thats what its called in Celtic culture before I forget..
Do masons study ancient cultures?
The more serious ones do, yes.
WRONG. Only those "Interested" .. I as a history major of course, I know a bit about many cultures (Tamahuahuhauhuh might disagree but he just
needs to understand NOT EVERY ONE IS NOR CARES ABOUT PURE GNOSTIC TEACHINGS) but not all Masons study ancient cultures, because for the most part, it
is irrelevant to the Masonic teachings.
