ATS as a Disinfo-Agents Tool (Understanding Disinfo), page


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Topic started on 9-5-2007 @ 06:56 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
This isn't another thread labeling ATS as a disifno site. Ideally, --place disinfo agency title here-- would prefer not to have nay connections to ATS, or any other forum for that matter. Ideally they'd prefer to allow ATS to function on it's own, and then simply frequent the forums (any place) to spread their disinfo and related subversive operations.

Perhaps they'd try to get some agents as moderators for the inside scoop, but realistically any real-deal agents would have access to the admin pages thanks to Google being
a de facto government operation. It's best for their efforts to not give the appearence of there being agent staff members to set off red flags for site members (whatever happened to Agent Smith? :lol. If there were insider admins it'd be best for the staff to have no clue, and for the agents to not project the image of there being bias on behalf of the staff at the target forum. In short, it's a waste of time and resources for any would-be agents to even spend the work and dedication to even being offered staff status.

Next it's important to understand what disinformation is to begin with. Disinfo is intentional propagation of phoney material and information. This is not to be confused with misinformation, which is unintentional propagation of phoney materials, false "facts" and so on. Misinfo is what happens when we take disinfo uncritically, and then propagate it ourselves, thus contributing to the narfarious efforts of the agents.

It's the same concept that applies to propaganda in general: People say things like "there's no way they can control all those people in the media". Sure, but they don't even need to "control" or pay them off! Once a person has been indoctrinated (thru propaganda) with the ideology (for example political bias), they themselves become unwitting irrational walking propaganda parrot agents.

The next thing to understand is the higher purpose of "disinfo agents". It's not only to spread bogus information, it also involves subversion / diversion / misdirection and disruption in general. For further insights into this, and how not to function as an "enemy propagandist", see my deeper analysis of the decla ssified OSS (CIA) "Morale Operations" Subversion Manual .

In a forum like ATS, the disinfo agent would act in a few primary ways:
1} Red Herring / Ad Hominem subversive disruption of threads.
2} Staunchly supporting disinfo / misdirection theories and topics.
3} Spreading defeatism and pessimism in whatever cause is of concern to the disinfo agent's agenda.
And so on.

We all see this sort of activity not only here at ATS but also abroad. These sorts of indicators can be used in identifying potential agents, however one must be careful to not throw such accusations around as the people you might be questioning could simply be ones infected / indoctrinated with the behaviors and irrational biases as desired by the agents of disinfo (take political biases for example). The important lesson here is how not to think and behave like a disinfo agent.

A better understanding of propaganda itself is in oreder for those who really want to understand these concepts and how to avoid unwittingly functioning as tools of 'enemy agents'. The most basic yet important thing to understand about propaganda is that it's the science of persuasion and diversion. The whole point is to persuade you into diversionary paths. That basic definition even applies to 'civilian use propaganda' (advertising), but the dual aspect definition is especially critical in realms such as ideologies and crucial topics. The first goal would be to persuade the people into "compliance gaining", thru diversion of the basic understanding of the true nature of the issue itself. When that fails, the diversion aspect goes into overdrive.

The goal is to divert people from what I call "Actionable Consensus" issues. In any major ordeal there will always be a list of items that everyone could agree is wrong and diserve some level of "action". When this is the case, like with 9/11 for example, the goal is to propagate as many misdirecting false leads and theories as possible, to divert everyone away form the actionable consensus issues and into social divisions over this or that belief. When this is done effectively, everyone will be too busy wrapped up in the melodrama of bitter infighting and irrational bias and sensational theories to all agree on the core fundamental issues (which are oddly enough usually found right on the surface). The idea is to create big sensational objects of attention, which are highly debatable, to trick the movers into focusing on those items as the core issues when in fact they're highly debatable and there will never be consensus.

Don't let this happen to you...
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