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posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it.

1.5 inches/ year, over 100 million years = 2,224 miles, about 0.9% of the average distance of the Earth to the moon now.


at what point does it start to matter tho? we all no the moon has, if you will, a profound effect upon the earth, and little change could matter. im with you, itll be a few years after my kids are dead, but just curious...




posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Amorymeltzer

Originally posted by HowardRoark
I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it.

1.5 inches/ year, over 100 million years = 2,224 miles, about 0.9% of the average distance of the Earth to the moon now.


at what point does it start to matter tho? we all no the moon has, if you will, a profound effect upon the earth, and little change could matter. im with you, itll be a few years after my kids are dead, but just curious...


But exactly what "profound effect(s)" are you talking about. We will still have tides (from the sun), just not as big. The nights would be darker, but they already are on new moons.

Can you be a little more specific?



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
But exactly what "profound effect(s)" are you talking about. We will still have tides (from the sun), just not as big. The nights would be darker, but they already are on new moons.

Can you be a little more specific?


first off, yes, the tides are in part from the sun as well as the moon, but when u say not as big, theyre really not as big. the sun's effect is almost negligable. and, hey, id miss the moon, but, more stars.

no, what im really talkin about is actual affects. whatever the amount, the moon has some influence over the earth and its life in space, such as our orbit. this relatively major gravitational influence on us isnt there, it may not cause us to spiral away, but i bet it wud shake thigns up a bit. also, the spin of the earth itself, the moon cancels out a bunch of its wobbles.
AND... wed be missing out on werewolves! y not?



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
whatever the amount, the moon has some influence over the earth and its life in space, such as our orbit. this relatively major gravitational influence on us isnt there, it may not cause us to spiral away, but i bet it wud shake thigns up a bit. also, the spin of the earth itself, the moon cancels out a bunch of its wobbles.
AND... wed be missing out on werewolves! y not?


I'm not so sure about that. You may be right, but I'd like to see more

How does the moon cancel out "wobbles?" can you link to any science that can expain this?



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Supernova
SpittinCobra : i watched a program on the discovery channel saying exactly the same thing as you have stated here.It pointed out that one day we might need to take action to move the moon back closer to Earth somehow.


LMAO, I watch the same program, there where to diffrent ones, thats how i knew.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by Supernova
SpittinCobra : i watched a program on the discovery channel saying exactly the same thing as you have stated here.It pointed out that one day we might need to take action to move the moon back closer to Earth somehow.


I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it.

1.5 inches/ year, over 100 million years = 2,224 miles, about 0.9% of the average distance of the Earth to the moon now.


The moon will never excape Earths gravtaional field. It will someday affect the tidesand other thing it affects. But little changes can make a huge diffrence. The moon made the Earth drop a dergree on its Axies, turned The northen part of africa to a desert as it is now.

The earth is speeding up, not sure what kind of changes will happen. need to do some checking.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 05:15 PM
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Actually i'm not losing any sleep over it,although i must say it was an interesting program.

SpittingCobra my memory isn't great and i watched it a while ago.Was that the program which said the Earth would no longer revolve as we know it and we would have hugely fluctuating weather every few hours?



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by Supernova
Actually i'm not losing any sleep over it,although i must say it was an interesting program.

SpittingCobra my memory isn't great and i watched it a while ago.Was that the program which said the Earth would no longer revolve as we know it and we would have hugely fluctuating weather every few hours?


Yes, and we would have great storms. The th could tilt back and forth.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by Amorymeltzer
whatever the amount, the moon has some influence over the earth and its life in space, such as our orbit. this relatively major gravitational influence on us isnt there, it may not cause us to spiral away, but i bet it wud shake thigns up a bit. also, the spin of the earth itself, the moon cancels out a bunch of its wobbles.
AND... wed be missing out on werewolves! y not?


I'm not so sure about that. You may be right, but I'd like to see more

How does the moon cancel out "wobbles?" can you link to any science that can expain this?


here you go
most of the stuff is on the second page, with a wrap up on the third, but i linked to the first since it was interesting. i answered a number of my own questions. i only wished he had gone into the other possibilities of moon-vanishing, such as the slowly creeping away part, but the end result is pretty much the same.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 06:08 PM
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Thanks for the link Amorymeltzer



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 08:48 PM
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stop it! im blushing!



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by Amorymeltzer


here you go
most of the stuff is on the second page, with a wrap up on the third, but i linked to the first since it was interesting. i answered a number of my own questions. i only wished he had gone into the other possibilities of moon-vanishing, such as the slowly creeping away part, but the end result is pretty much the same.


I don't see anything there about the wobble of the Earth getting worse.

In fact the article seems to approach the problem as if the moon was never present, rather than what would happen if the moon drifted away.



posted on Feb, 14 2004 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
In fact the article seems to approach the problem as if the moon was never present, rather than what would happen if the moon drifted away.

yeah, ino, thats one of its shortcomings, but most of it still applies.

on the 'wobble' factor, no, this doesnt really touch on it, but this does, towards the bottom.

however, the original link deals with a number of factors. the moon not being there would mess with the biological clocks of anmals, it would stop the elongation of the day (which would have its own consequences), biology would evolve slower and differently, and the average wind speed would increase, causing widespread erosion. the question was what would happen has it moved away, and the answer is that a number of things would change. including, if u read the new link, the earth's orbit/equinox evolution (its that shift of the equinoxes which is one of the reasons astrology is incorrect)



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 10:45 AM
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I don't thik there would be much effect of the Moon's gradual drift from the Earth on animal life because the change would be so gradual, life would evolve to compnsate.

And, as I read your link, if the moon were to drift off, the Earth's rotation and orbit would become more stable, not less.



posted on Feb, 15 2004 @ 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark
I don't thik there would be much effect of the Moon's gradual drift from the Earth on animal life because the change would be so gradual, life would evolve to compnsate.

yeah, ino, the biological aspects aint much to look at, but its interesting.

And, as I read your link, if the moon were to drift off, the Earth's rotation and orbit would become more stable, not less.

exactly. thats a change isnt it? a rather important one imho. relative to earth-with-moon, thats a 'wobble'



posted on Feb, 16 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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If the moon "rotates" then whyis their a side of the moon that NEVER sees the sun ?

If it rotated then there would be no "dark side" of the moon.

AND regardless of where you are on the planet the same "Face" of the moon faces the planet.

IF the moon is really a part of the Earth then why is there almost no naturally forming Helium 3 on Earth ?



posted on Feb, 16 2004 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by robertfenix
If the moon "rotates" then whyis their a side of the moon that NEVER sees the sun ?

If it rotated then there would be no "dark side" of the moon.

AND regardless of where you are on the planet the same "Face" of the moon faces the planet.

IF the moon is really a part of the Earth then why is there almost no naturally forming Helium 3 on Earth ?


You are either a troll or a maroon.



posted on Feb, 16 2004 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by HowardRoark

Originally posted by robertfenix
If the moon "rotates" then whyis their a side of the moon that NEVER sees the sun ?

If it rotated then there would be no "dark side" of the moon.

AND regardless of where you are on the planet the same "Face" of the moon faces the planet.

IF the moon is really a part of the Earth then why is there almost no naturally forming Helium 3 on Earth ?


You are either a troll or a maroon.

weeeee!
ok, so, as stated in this very same thread, the moon revolves around the earth, in the exact same amount of time it takes to rotate. thus, the same face always shows to us.
second, the moon broke away from the earth a long time ago. really really early in the history of the earth. since then, theyve formed independently of each other, rockwise. the moon, being pretty much dormant, had onlya few moonquakes, got hit by other rocks. the earth was a much more active planet, and that might, just might have some small affect on the composition of things.
oh, and check your periodic table. He=Helium. regular Helium has two proton, two electrons, and two neutrons, for an atomic mass of 4. things are isotopes when they get neutrons, not lose them. i repeat myself, its H=Hydrogen. the form were talkin bout is tritium.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 11:15 AM
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The asymmetric nature of this gravitational interaction is also responsible for the fact that the Moon rotates synchronously, i.e. it is locked in phase with its orbit so that the same side is always facing toward the Earth.

synchronous rotation
said of a satellite if the period of its rotation about its axis is the same
as the period of its orbit around its primary. This implies that the
satellite always keeps the same hemisphere facing its primary (e.g. the
Moon). It also implies that one hemisphere (the leading hemisphere) always
faces in the direction of the satellite's motion while the other (trailing)
one always faces backward. Most of the satellites in the solar system rotate
synchronously.

seds.lpl.arizona.edu...


The only moron is you pal, since you don't seem to understand Astro Physics.

THE MOON DOES NOT "SPIN" its Hemisphere is LOCKED so that it faces Earth.

Earths Orbit is 365 days +/- 1 day
Earths Rotation is 24 hours +/- 1 hour

Moon Orbit is 27.32 days +/- .05%
Moon Rotation is 27.32 days +/- .05%

Moons Orbit and Rotation are the same due to synchronous rotation. ie The moon orbits the Earth while the Earth/ Moon Mass also rotates.

SO shut your damn PIE HOLE NEXT TIME IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.



posted on Feb, 17 2004 @ 11:17 AM
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God is this the reason why i feel dizzy!



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