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reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 07:41 AM by kindred
I dont like to use the word GOD when talking about the creation of the universe, as I'm not a supporter of organised religion. But one thing I do agree with is that something definitely created this universe. Call it whatever you want but I call it consciousness and we are all a part of it.

Quite alot of scientists who have studied and done research into particles are now coming to the same conclusion, that they might possibly be self aware and therefore conscious.


"In some strange way an electron or a photon [or any other elementary particle] seems to 'know' about changes in the environment and appears to respond accordingly," says physicist Danah Zohar.



Renowned plasma and particle physicist, David Bohm, says "In some sense a rudimentary mind-like quality is present even at the level of particle physics. As we go to subtler levels this mind-like quality becomes stronger and more developed."


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The Self-Aware Universe
homepages.ihug.co.nz...

I remember a while back watching a documentary on BBC2 called "the Planets" about our solar system. After it finished I immediately thought it was a pity that they didn't cover black holes and the big bang.

When I went to bed later that night I had the most bizarre dream whereby I stood before this highly intelligent being and started asking it questions about the universe.

I was told that the main purpose of black holes was to recycle matter so that it can be used over and over again to create new universes. Basically we live in a multiverse where all universes are shaped like a football and all are connected to one another by black holes.

Our universe is basically the result of a black hole in another universe collapsing in on itself and exploding creating a new baby universe which expands, evolves and grows and this process of recycling goes on forever.

Whether there's any truth to this or just my imagination running riot, who knows. When I was watching the news on TV later in the week, my jaw dropped wide open when I heard a scientist announcing that the research they had done led them to believe that the Universe was shaped like a football.

news.bbc.co.uk...
www.space.com...


reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 11:15 AM by Maverickhunter
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Please, save the religious talk for else where.

And God created the flood and that was the first time the spectrum of light Existed in the "universe" (the rainbow)

As for the topic.

There can be no beginning and no end, thus no multiverse and no universe, because nothing can neither Exist outside, inside, before, or after Existence. Nothing does not Exist as a thing, therefore it can not act as a barrier. I have been going over this for the past few months and I'm thinking you may find some of the writing intruiging.

All so, feel free to use any thing I have posted to write your paper with and I don't require nor desire a source!

Nice post, great questions

To add: I comprehend your "creation science" terminology, as I too agree with such a view. It is merely the work of another creationist "universe". If God can't simply make the Earth flat and rule it from the clouds, then He must rule it from beyond the "bubble universe", eh? Sly, but not slick enough

[edit on 5-5-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

Hmm?

Yeah, but the big bang is creation science, and I am relating it to the creationist point of view, I think it merely gives credence to creationists. They wanted a desire to find out how the Universe started so they mistook data such as cosmic waves and deduced that to be how the length of how the Universe first started. Don't rays have a point a and point B? I thought you learned that in geometry class! Then why aren't they called cosmic "lines" instead of "cosmic rays"?


reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 11:24 AM by Maverickhunter
Originally posted by kindred
I dont like to use the word GOD when talking about the creation of the universe, as I'm not a supporter of organised religion. But one thing I do agree with is that something definitely created this universe. Call it whatever you want but I call it consciousness and we are all a part of it.

Quite alot of scientists who have studied and done research into particles are now coming to the same conclusion, that they might possibly be self aware and therefore conscious.


"In some strange way an electron or a photon [or any other elementary particle] seems to 'know' about changes in the environment and appears to respond accordingly," says physicist Danah Zohar.



Renowned plasma and particle physicist, David Bohm, says "In some sense a rudimentary mind-like quality is present even at the level of particle physics. As we go to subtler levels this mind-like quality becomes stronger and more developed."


ezinearticles.com...,-Fields-and-Waves&id=546242

The Self-Aware Universe
homepages.ihug.co.nz...

I remember a while back watching a documentary on BBC2 called "the Planets" about our solar system. After it finished I immediately thought it was a pity that they didn't cover black holes and the big bang.

When I went to bed later that night I had the most bizarre dream whereby I stood before this highly intelligent being and started asking it questions about the universe.

I was told that the main purpose of black holes was to recycle matter so that it can be used over and over again to create new universes. Basically we live in a multiverse where all universes are shaped like a football and all are connected to one another by black holes.

Our universe is basically the result of a black hole in another universe collapsing in on itself and exploding creating a new baby universe which expands, evolves and grows and this process of recycling goes on forever.

Whether there's any truth to this or just my imagination running riot, who knows. When I was watching the news on TV later in the week, my jaw dropped wide open when I heard a scientist announcing that the research they had done led them to believe that the Universe was shaped like a football.

news.bbc.co.uk...
www.space.com...

NICE FIND! I have always wondered why photons and electrons and quarks seemed to be all knowing, if they exist, then the Universe is not infinite, and is always conserving them, and they are always being destroyed, and moving onto become a different form, and creating the illusion that the Universe is infinite, IMO.


reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 03:25 PM by blue bird
What about:

- Redshift

- Cosmic Microwave Background

- good score in prediction of elements in Universe based on BB (( 70 % and something hydrogen and 20 and something % helium and 1% the rest stuff



OVERVIEW / COSMIC CONFUSION

The expansion of our universe is much like the inflation
of a balloon. The distances to remote galaxies are increasing.
Astronomers casually say that distant galaxies are “receding”
or “moving away” from us, but the galaxies are not traveling
through space away from us. They are not fragments of a big
bang bomb. Instead the space between the galaxies and us is
■ The expansion of the universe is one of the most
fundamental concepts of modern science yet one of the
most widely misunderstood.
■ The key to avoiding the misunderstandings is not to take
the term “big bang” too literally. The big bang was not a
bomb that went off in the center of the universe and
hurled matter outward into a preexisting void. Rather it
was an explosion of space itself that happened
everywhere, similar to the way the expansion of the
surface of a balloon happens everywhere on the surface.
■ This difference between the expansion of space and the
expansion in space may seem subtle but has important
consequences for the size of the universe, the rate at
which galaxies move apart, the type of observations
astronomers can make, and the nature of the accelerating
expansion that the universe now seems to be undergoing.
■ Strictly speaking, the big bang model has very little
to say about the big bang itself. It describes what
happened afterward. Overview/Cosmic Confusion



source


reply posted on 6-5-2007 @ 05:46 PM by followerofchrist
Link - www.worldnetdaily.com...

A science student in Kentucky says when the Bible records God spoke, and things were created, that's just what happened, and he can support that with scientific experiments.

"If God spoke everything into existence as the Genesis record proposes, then we should be able to scientifically prove that the construction of everything in the universe begins with a) the Holy Spirit (magnetic field); b) Light (an electric field); and c) that Light can be created by a sonic influence or sound," Samuel J. Hunt writes on his website.

"There are several documented and currently taught laboratory experiments that accurately portray the events in Genesis in sequential order, the most important being that of sonoluminescence," he wrote.

That, he described to WND, is the circumstance in which sending a sonic signal into bubbles in a fluid causes the bubbles to collapse and they release photons, or create light.

That aligns with one of the earlier descriptions of the creation by God, when, in Genesis 1:1-3, the Holy Spirit moved upon the face of the deep, which generally is considered water, and said "Let there be light," he explained.




God was sending a sonic influence into the waters, and basically creating light, Hunt said. He's documented his theory, and the experiments he believes back it up, in his "Episteme Scientia, the Law of All That Is."

Researchers at institutions no less than UCLA and the University of Chicago have verified the production of light from bubbles when sound is passed through a liquid, called sonoluminescence.

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