Originally posted by Zenagain
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Also of note, but not connected, the first Space Shuttle orbiter was rolled out on August 16, 1976, the same day he claims Apollo 20 launched. Hope all of this helps in some way.
Originally posted by Dantes
Did you even try to google him? I also have alot of usernames on the net... but I don't claim to be a 76 year old retired NASA pilot. He is in his 30's, and was in dipers when this mission was supposed to have happened, as you would see if you did some googling on his usernames or real name.
Also, he has started to remove alot of stuff that was on the net just a few days ago, so now his homepage has a lot of broken links, obviously covering his tracks, but of course it's too late now.
And he didn't spend alot of money at all, he did this on his own, cost him almost nothing. He already had the cameras and equipment as he works as a photographer, and he knows 3D-modelling. He bought some pics and stuff on ebay, but that didn't cost much. This is just a hobby project.
Yes, maybe he did some research, but the stuff about missing parts etc is just random, but it works in his favor. NASA recently "lost" 700 boxes of original film from Apollo-missions. The official version was it was misplaced. To my knowledge they haven't recovered any of it yet. So the missing parts are just a regular NASA blunder, nothing remarkable.
Don't even know where to start with this. #1 One username that "may" be linking to him claims a birthdate of 1962 or something. Provae that that's his actual birthday.
#2 "Also, he has started to remove alot of stuff that was on the net just a few days ago, so now his homepage has a lot of broken links, obviously covering his tracks, but of course it's too late now."
So his homepage is coming up as a broken link? Ok. But you mention "a lot" of things he's taking down. One is not a lot. One is one.
#3 "And he didn't spend alot of money at all, he did this on his own, cost him almost nothing."
Assuming this is a hoax, and personally I'm still on the fence and think maybe he's releasing good info "mixed in" with bad info, please show the reciepts on how much this "project" has cost him.
#4 Yes, maybe he did some research, but the stuff about missing parts etc is just random, but it works in his favor.
Missing parts? IT'S TWO MISSING SATURN 5 ROCKETS. I'm not even going to go into the dimensions of a Saturn 5 rocket for you.
"NASA recently "lost" 700 boxes of original film from Apollo-missions. "
700 box's of Nasa files would fit in one exhaust nozzle of a Saturn 5. Let's leave it at that.
Thank you, and goodnight......
Originally posted by Camilo1
curiousbeliever- I`m not an expert on any of these subjects. I`m not a CGI expert, I`m not an analysis image expert, I`m a politician.
I thank you for your words.
I have been given a lot of thought to this Rutledge/retiredafb subject, there might be commarades that think that "with all due evidence" we are just idiots to think that this is true, but then, once again, who`s to say who is right and who is wrong?
For one I really do not think that is for anyone to say...
If I`m not mistaken the purpose of ATS is to have an open discussion of each and every subject, "deny ignorance" and this subject has room enough for anyone to give there say.
I don`t know... this just as well might be a campaign for some new movie, I really don`t know... but I`ve been working for goverment (not U.S.) for quite some time and something leds me to believe that is just to much of an elaborated hoax to be true.
Think of the reosurces... the city video looks fake, I understand that, but what about the "ingress video"?, what about the coordinates that he gives and the NASA official video an a prior misson?
I really despise people saying that there "no was any apollo 20"!
The reason for forums such as ATS is to have an alternative opinion, if it was mainstream there would be no reason for us to elaborate on posibilities.
Originally posted by Implosion
Originally posted by Cygnific
Now 'numberthx' it is suggesting something with a number (Probably a date). '1139 > 1931'
2007 - 1931 = 76
Or, it could just be a reference to the film THX 1138.