Another Fake Video?

Excellent Bspiracy! I can't believe I went over to a thread of mine to bring this exact footage over (minus the great report to accompany) to hopefully shed some physical evidence to the validity of the footage as seen above. I am down with this one being real real real.

The fact that there was never an Apollo 20 kind of gives it away as a hoax from the gitgo, eh?

You know how many people have said that already?



It's presented as a secret mission. Therefore "NASA said it didn't happen" brings absolutely nothing to the table whatsoever.

Hmmm...it's not much to go on - but good work. Say, wouldn't 'RetiredAFB' for a handle imply that he is retired from the Airforce? That's what I'd assume anyhow..

Jimbo999

Well, just because it has 'landing gear' doesn't mean it didn't crash though. I mean - the Space Shuttle had landing gear didn't it?

Jimbo999

Still - they both look essentially like the SAME object, don't you think???

Jimbo999

Hmmm...weird. It DOES look as though someone is PURPOSELY trying to hide the detail from that crater at NASA - now, I wonder WHY they would do that?

Jimbo999

But he may have simply taken high resolution photos that exist from NASA, printed them, lighted them properly, then panned a camera over the photos with a window pain in front of the lens. This would be much easier and quicker

Well, the guy who actually posed the video claims to live in France actually. A pretty sophisticated country - as I'm sure you'd notice should you ever visit it (highly recommended).

As for facillities to launch a lunar rocket? Ever hear of Groom Lake? It's an entire city of aviation specialists - FAR more sophisticated and larger than anything NASA has at CC Florida. So, that's no mystery really - if they wanted to launch a 'secret' moon shot - that would be the place to do it from I figure...

Jimbo999

thats what i say, mate.
the military-industrial-complex doesnt need something like "nasa" to get something into space, dont you think? they can do whatever they want!

[edit on 10/6/07 by cometa]

Exactly...

Regarding the fact he has a "higher res image"
I sent a message to retiredafb and he responded with
"the preflight stydy, is a video realized by filming stills, two panoramic shots, the final shot is a anaglyphic still combining the red and blue component of as15 9625 and 9630."

B

Regarding the interview with retiredafb posted earlier:
www.ufodigest.com...

It appears that there are some missing quesitons on that page.



But I think I found a more complete interview here:

www.angelismarriti.it...

One question I found interesting:

6) L.S. When and above all why did you decide to disclose these information about classified space missions and is there anybody who is protecting you?

W.R. It's the announcement of "the wonder of it all" maybe, and 2012 is coming fast. I also think that UFOs will appear more often starting from September 2007. A lot of people died around me in Rwanda, and I have more time to take care of this. About protection, please understand it's hard to speak of my armoury.


[edit on 14-6-2007 by curiousbeliever]

Guess we can close it as hoax. Thanks to lunarexplorer.it and Ufologica for providing the original uncompressed full image of AS_15-P-9625-05. Here is the rock cut and pasted.

Edit: Would be nice to know how it was done though, the crater overflight seems original Apollo material to me.



[edit on 18/6/2007 by Cygnific]

Where did they get that picture? It says, "Copyright Nasa/Lunar and Planetary Institute," but that just leads you back to lpi.usra.edu. I would like to see the original of that image. I still can't personally put this in my hoax basket, its interesting. How it came about, this mysterious retiredafb guy, the whole Apollo 20 thing, Buzz Aldren's latest remarks on Fox, Armstrong still keeping his mouth shut, why visiting the moon came to an abrupt halt, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be a lie as well.

I got intrigued to do an AB test on this. First is a cut and zoom of AS15-P-9630. (Which is what the above picture actually is from)



This second is the new picture, shrunk to size.



And those two (closely) AB'd.



That new picture is pretty cool looking, but I'm still not sure what it proves. If this thing has been sitting there for "Billions" of years, why wouldn't it look like that. Maybe our moon was a stepping stone to get to Earth from Nirubu or something.

You are not telling me you all actually believe this video.....

Not the video, no. But this still doesn't look natural.

Thank you so much or saying that. This video has been discussed long before this. If you want "unatural" formations, go to the space exploration forum and look at the Mars anomaly threads, jesus they are amazing!

You have to order the full high resoluation at the Lunar and Planetary Institute if you want to be really sure it is not a fake.

Or go to this website and the last 2 pictures are a portion of the full high resolution image showing the 'thing'

Originally posted by jimbo999



I have. And I've actually sat atop Tikaboo and looked at it.



Because they are an R&D base. Not a launch facility.



Jim, I really hope you're not being serious ?

Have you even SEEN the Groom facility ? Or satelite photos of it ?
Do you know how large a launch structure is ?

Groom doesn't have a launch structure.

Seriously, look at the ideas you propose, before you propose them.

Regards,
Lex