Funny how the pro-Iraq war lobby has been upholding the Kurds as the great "success story" of Iraq, and now we see that the culture is not that far removed from that of the Sunnis and Shiites after all. This video is sickening to the extreme, and I don't want American soldiers spending another minute defending these barbarians or their government.

No way I could bear to watch such horror, or even read short excerpt from OP.
And how I am sad for poor girl at the dawn of her life.

Why insulting animals - calling this people animals!?

[edit on 4-5-2007 by blue bird]

sick #ers

i can't stand the bastards me, all their countrys want nuking.

(i'm holding back with my language aswell).

even in the newspapers today, there's outrage in iran because the president of iran kissed his former teachers hand.

crazy people, crazy religion.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by st3ve_o]

[edit on 4-5-2007 by _Phoenix_]

Thats disgusting. That had absolutely nothing to do with religion but some sick sadistic ritual. I would like to know, were they Kurds or Iraqi's?

I'm assuming Kurds since she was Kurdish.

yeah alrite man

i live in a community full of muslims, i know whats what...

watch cnn/foxnews/sky news now....i guarantee within 5 mins you'll hear a name on the lines of jdgfjdklgjkldg muhammed.

muslims dominate news domestically and globally.

and my above post was to phoenix before he edited his

This is one of the most spineless, cowardly, acts I have seen in a long time.

A harmless, young woman bludgeon to death by a bunch of cowardly men.

This is not even a stoning some worthless human, crushes her skull with a large chunk of concrete, as she huddles in a fetal position on the ground.


Shows you the weak minded are led easily and how mob mentality rules.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by Realtruth]

Originally posted by st3ve_o
yeah alrite man

i live in a community full of muslims, i know whats what...

watch cnn/foxnews/sky news now....i guarantee within 5 mins you'll hear a name on the lines of jdgfjdklgjkldg muhammed.

muslims dominate news domestically and globally.

I said you were ignorant, because of the fact that this girls family isnt even muslim!!
Haha how do you feel now.

But I edited it, because I didnt want to bother.

Maybe you should learn to read before making comments like that too, get the full story.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by _Phoenix_]

[edit on 4-5-2007 by _Phoenix_]

I am not going to watch this. Reading about it is bad enough....things once seen can NEVER bee unseen and I do not NEED to have this lovely little picture in my head.

It is hard to fathom that this kind of thing goes on in this day and age, but luckily for me I live in the USA where such a thing would be a freak show come to life...........as it seems to be to me right now in that very weird part of the world I hope I NEVER find myself in..............

[edit on 4-5-2007 by theRiverGoddess]

I refuse to watch that.
I am surprised that people get surprised when they say things like civilized society.
Man is an evil person, and he does evil things, he rules by power and might makes right in all its variations.
He cannot be forced to be democratric, he will contiue to be demonic no matter how much democracy florishish.
its the human condition...some call it sin, some call it mental illness, some call it religious fanatisicm, its all around and not going away any time soon
sorry to dislusion you all.

The world is not the most happy place in the universe where love and understanding are the only emotions that exist and which rule our world...

The world is full of people like those who killed this girl...

Originally posted by junglelord

Man is an evil person, and he does evil things, he rules by power and might makes right in all its variations.

No, the actions which we choose are what make people good or bad. Yes, there are people who are born with "evil tendencies" no matter if they lived in a happy home or not, but these are extreme and unusual cases.

On the overall people decide who they are going to become, and the actions they take throughout their lives. Society, their parents and the world could have treated them bad or they can try to come up with any other excuses.... but at the end it is the individual who decides what actions he/she is going to take.



[edit on 4-5-2007 by Muaddib]

Originally posted by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by st3ve_o
yeah alrite man

i live in a community full of muslims, i know whats what...

watch cnn/foxnews/sky news now....i guarantee within 5 mins you'll hear a name on the lines of jdgfjdklgjkldg muhammed.

muslims dominate news domestically and globally.

I said you were ignorant, because of the fact that this girls family isnt even muslim!!
Haha how do you feel now.

But I edited it, because I didnt want to bother.

Maybe you should learn to read before making comments like that too, get the full story.

i don't care if the girl was from the north pole, i certainly know what holy book those murdering b-sards follow.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by st3ve_o]

i don't care if the girl was from the north pole, i certainly know what holy book those murdering b-sards follow.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by st3ve_o]

PLEASE do tell me what book they follow, please do.

[edit on 4-5-2007 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by Muaddib
No, the actions which we choose are what make people good or bad. Yes, there are people who are born with "evil tendencies" no matter if they lived in a happy home or not, but these are extreme and unusual cases.

On the overall people decide who they are going to become, and the actions they take throughout their lives. Society, their parents and the world could have treated them bad or they can try to come up with any other excuses.... but at the end it is the individual who decides what actions he/she is going to take.

Nope, sorry. I hate to break your bubble, but most people are a product of the society around them or else Iraq wouldn't be in the mess it's in right now. Phillip Zimbardo showed this quite well with his Stanford prison experiment.

This isn't to say that people aren't responsible for their own actions. Quite the opposite. People who can rise above social pressures and be better than the flock should be praised (we don't do this enough). The sociopaths should be locked up and psychologically, neurologically, and genetically examined thoroughly to find out what makes them sociopaths, and everyone else will suffer the appropriate consequences of their actions. Those that succumb to the criminal elements of society should be locked away to prevent the infection of their psychology to others in society, and they should be psychologically treated so that they don't get released back into society with those same criminal tendencies or even worse tendencies, as our prison system tends to produce.

As of right now, many of our prisons don't do any psychological treatment of any kind, and many inmates even become influenced by the more violent inmates. And then we're surprised by the high recidivism rates of released felons.

Sorry about the tangent.

May she RIP, like someone said what is the point of cams and video? also I saw this happen on another site, except they buried the woman up to her midsection with hands by her side for adultry, can you imagine this, this is hard to fathom but it's been happening for thousand and thousands of years and also other religions and cultures used stoning as punishment for all kinds of things on men and women, basically if they can take the life of a young woman of their own kind, it really just puts in perspective how easily they would not even think twice to kill a so called infidel or whatever they label a non believer in that religion.

I think most of yall calling for genocide and spreading biggoted views need to bring your emotions in check. You obviously are not mature enough to mingle normally in society if these are the only reactions you can think of when approached with such a reality.

A crime was commited by peopel with evil in their souls. How does their crime have anything to do with the young school children living hundreds of miles away from them? Or their parents? Or the teachers, delivery man and retail store stockers?

You only need to imagine anyone you know being incinerated because of a crime committed by someone in a community completely disconnected from your own to understand how immature and thoughtless your remarks are.

Maybe someone in your city is not being stoned. Perhaps they are being shot to death, poisoned, cut up and chopped to pieces. If you watch your local news, something like that probably happens at least once a month 50 miles from within where you live, if you live near or in an urban area.

How is that any different? What is the difference between someone who kills for no reason at all, and what these people are doing? Why does their crime warrant the destruction of their entire population, but if someone gets shot next door to you, you sure as hell hope noone drops a bomb on your neighborhood.

THINK FIRST, AND THEN ANALYZE YOUR EMOTIONS. LEARN TO MATURELY FORM YOUR OPINION ON A SUBJECT.

there's wrong then there's that video.... it defines a whole new kind of wrong....

I don't know if I should shout my disgust or pick up arms and kill every single last one of those who believe that killing a person like that is justice... The days of the bible never changed in that part of the world.

I've been all over this earth. Paid by the Navy. Seen that part of the world. Seen the savages with my own eyes up close.

The peasants shouldn't be blamed for following the king... when the man that feeds and clothes you tells you that you must kill this person just because they are not of your religion, its hard to say no. They have nothing.

So, they have nothing to lose. They are beaten publicly in the streets if they so much as utter a different accent that would offend Allah.

I had dinner in a nice place near city center Dubai. This was in 2000 before all the fecal matter hit the fan. I couldn't find a person that cared two flat tires what religion you were or if you dated outside of it. It wasn't even an issue as they are not tainted by the perversion of Islam. They were into baseball and playing outside with their friends.

We must concentrate our efforts on the Imams that continue to spread hate and confusion amongst the young men in those countries.

Seek out English speaking IRC channels and see what we can do to let them know that not all Americans act like what they are being told.



[edit on 5/5/2007 by TheExaminer]