yes, as i posted in another thread.
"All these UFO videos of tiny non-descript dots in the sky really are annoying... they can be anything, be it ballons, debris or whatever else. Sad thing is, just because debunkers can't idenitify(debunk) it conclusively, because the video is so terrible and the dots so far away and non-descript, tons of people love to jump around and say its proof its alien ships or whatever.

UFO means UNIDENTIFIED Flying Object not "alien spacecraft", its sad to see how many aliens-at-earth believers forget this fact. Sadly enough it seems that the worse the quality of the video and more tiny/obscure/nondescript the objects in question are, the more popular it becomes and the more claims it gets for "alien UFO proof", since videos of such nature become hard if not impossible to "debunk" just cause you can't positively identify a tiny dot moving in the sky, no matter how good you are.

I'd love to see just one, just one video of a clear as day "spacecraft" posted by a reliable source with the source file available, that shows the full duration of the sighting and with the "spacecraft" within a 100 feet or something rather then hundreds or thousands of feet making it some dot or blob or vague shap. With all the UFO videos out there, all the claims... its pretty amazing no one can come up with this. Just one, I'd like to see just one."

No one else here finds it strange that out of the thousands of UFO videos, not ONE of them shows an undeniable close-up of a super high-tech SpaceShip? People have supposedly been interacting with Aliens for all these years, yet there is STILL nothing at all considered to be real evidence/proof... hmmm....

Originally posted by Diplomat
No one else here finds it strange that out of the thousands of UFO videos, not ONE of them shows an undeniable close-up of a super high-tech SpaceShip? People have supposedly been interacting with Aliens for all these years, yet there is STILL nothing at all considered to be real evidence/proof... hmmm....

The more you post the more it is apparent that you do not believe in the possibility of UFO's being Alien in nature. It s ok if you believe a certain way but please stop belittleing those who push the envelope past what you have come too see as no proof.
Im of the opinion that there is more than meets the eye.
Also there were many UFO sightings long before the advent of human flight fyi and dating back to the earliest of recorded history.
There is a reason we cant get good photo evidence however we are to ignorant as a race still to understand quite a bit so no surprise.
IMO they could operate in a different time reference or even travel between dimensions. Who knows but until Johnny ET lands on primetime TV and says hello the doubts will always be there. I find it hard to believe we are alone in this vast expanse of space and even harder to believe we are the most intelligent(see your daily news). If I was ET I wouldnt take any chances with our smart monkey race and most likely neither would you. hence why ET may stay at arms length. But again all conjecture on my part and hardly stupid as you proclaim thoughts.
Keep an open mind my friend as there is more to the heavens and earth than you or I or advanced science can imagine.


[edit on 1-5-2007 by VType]

You say it is apparent that I do not believe in the possibility of UFO's being Alien in nature? Of course I think it is POSSIBLE... I would never rule it out completely...

[edit on 1-5-2007 by Diplomat]

Originally posted by Diplomat
You say it is apparent that I do not believe in the possibility of UFO's being Alien in nature? Of course I think it is POSSIBLE... I would never rule it out completely...

[edit on 1-5-2007 by Diplomat]

Why the turn around? Just a few post ago you were calling members of this forum idiots and morons for thinking dots in the sky were UFOs.

Dots in the sky ARE ufos man! UFO means Unidentified Flying Object. The dots are obviously unidentified, and they are flying, so they are UFOs. All I was saying is that videos of small dots in the sky aren't much proof of anything, especially not proof that they are Alien spacecrafts.

COULD they be Alien spacecrafts? It is possible. Does a video of a blurry dot prove much of anything? Not really...

[edit on 2-5-2007 by Diplomat]

The clearest picture you can have is when the are slowly traveling close to the ground and thats a fact.

This keeps them under the radar when they are lost and when you
have witnesses that give descriptions and even say people were looking
out of the craft.

One was the slow moving Belgium Triangle craft. It was looking for the
one lost in the woods.

Video evidence is flawed. 911 videos proves nothing and the witness
testimony of gray small jets and explosions are worth more than doctored
videos as evidence. Miss America will have to testify even though she is
in the video evidence. Same with the lunar landings, videos are rehashed
every day on YouTube.

Video is fun but the Belgian Triangle had only one picture as far as I know
but the re enactment CGId model look way cool, most likely from I
witnesses of which there were plenty .

Now when going fast high in the air or in hover that when you must
add some smarts to what is observed. The main propulsion is in the
center for the Haunebu II and the Triangle craft, the outer motors
light up from the circulating electrons. So if you see flashing lights
back and forth, you got a triangle. If you see a triangle dark cloud,
it might be a triangle craft, of even two dark circles side by side, a
triangle craft.

Easy.

Tezzajw demands proof off anyone who
makes a claim doubting the existence of aliens on this planet, but not to anyone who makes claims of their existence. He/she does this on every thread. Have you given john lear/sleeper et all such a hard time demanding them to back up their claims? I doubt it.

Diplomat has every right to be here on this forum.
It may be a ufo/aliens one but its not just for blinkered believers. Surely its a place of discussion for both sides of the argument.

If you went out to the first 10 adults on the street and asked if they believe that there is a massive conspiratal cover up of aliens living on this planet in compliance with our governments, there would be "no way" all round. You can do your own poll tezzajw its easy enough.

Simply put, the average person may be aware that there may be life in the universe, But if you don't come to this website or others like it you wouldn't know about the supposed integration of aliens on this planet.

Originally posted by thesneakiod
If you went out to the first 10 adults on the street and asked if they believe that there is a massive conspiratal cover up of aliens living on this planet in compliance with our governments, there would be "no way" all round. You can do your own poll tezzajw its easy enough.

Please supply a link to the data that shows there would be a 'no way all round'.

Furthermore, please explain to me the statistical significance of only performing a poll on ten people? A small sample such as this has very little power to confidently predict the views of a much larger population.

Perhaps you should enrol in a 1st Year University Statistics course to confirm how sampling ten people is not an accurate predictor for a population. Making claims such as 'no way all round' need to be verified with statistical data, if you want them to be taken seriously.

Originally posted by thesneakiod
Diplomat has every right to be here on this forum. It may be a ufo/aliens one but its not just for blinkered believers. Surely its a place of discussion for both sides of the argument.

Legally speaking, he doesn't. But in terms of how these boards are set up, sure he does; no question. The issue with any post is how much it contributes to the discussion. When someone comes on here and makes a blanket statement such as "Lights in the sky don't mean anything" the initial response was to discuss the subject. I said, for example, that I saw the point, but maybe some of the better photographs would be useful. Nope, not according to Diplomat, and he just kept getting ruder and ruder. He certainly does not understand sarcasm or irony, and as the thread progressed he revealed himself to not be terribly knowledgeable about the subject in the first place. Further, he doesn't seem to know what he stands for. So it's kind of useless. He and you do have the right to be here, and the right to be ignored as well.

I suggest we shut down this thread on the grounds that it serves no useful purpose. We can probably get more useful information on a thread that is a little more specific.

Hello everyone,

I'm the owner of the www.freewebs.com/beermaidenufos website. I just found out that some people believe that "dots in the sky" are nothing, well if you can explain a solid spherical object flying around your house making no sound or exposing no lights either leaving a trail... Then you may consider opening your mind a bit more to the reality around you. Some may say that they are military crafts, I know for a fact that the military crafts are not that good at all. None of them can fly with their own anti gravitational field, I do believe that somewhere they are trying to make such a craft or maybe they already have but at no point they would put a pilot inside them and send them for a ride in the middle of bloody London.

*While doing some reasearch on Google about my website I found out that my pictures where being used as discussion of a "dot", I cannot see where my site is in this thread right now even seeing it before at Google, but I thought it would be okay if I came here and posted something.

[edit on 17-6-2007 by Beer_Maiden]

I would like say that my intentions having a website online is to share my experiences and to show my pictures. To believe Extraterrestrial life you do not have to believe me. I'm just a person who have the luck to see them often, I have witnesses and friends that have also seen these objects in the sky around my home and they also didn't think it was something from this planet. I have no intentions at all to make money or fame with my website. After so many sights and pictures taken I have no choice but to absolutely believe that we are not alone, now if you have an open mind to have the same beliefs it's up to you. I will welcome anyone interested on the UFO subject to contact me either by email or by the forum where I normally post.

I wish all the best for all of you.


www.freewebs.com/beermaidenufos(C) is a Copyrighted site and has all it's rights reserved (R).

[edit on 17-6-2007 by Beer_Maiden]

Originally posted by Beer_Maiden
... Some may say that they are military crafts, I know for a fact that the military crafts are not that good at all. None of them can fly with their own anti gravitational field...

Does you life history inlcude working on military projects or aircraft companies?
There may or may not be advanced military crafts, but how are you positive?
You facts could help prove that the government is not behind these crafts then.

Originally posted by Diplomat
No one else here finds it strange that out of the thousands of UFO videos, not ONE of them shows an undeniable close-up of a super high-tech SpaceShip? People have supposedly been interacting with Aliens for all these years, yet there is STILL nothing at all considered to be real evidence/proof... hmmm....

Actually, I think that is done very deliberately.

Those responsible for the UFO cover-up or "truth embargo" hoard all the best evidence to themselves.

Also, I think the ETs themselves have a policy in place where they don't allow themselves or their crafts to be photographed/filmed at close range.

Originally posted by Diplomat
But what exactly is so exciting about watching a video of a new high-tech military craft?

Gee, I dunno, maybe so you can be one of the first people to see said aircraft fly. Have you been to an air show before? People pay money to see even older craft fly. I would certainly be fairly excited to see a military craft that isn't even classified yet.

Does you life history inlcude working on military projects or aircraft companies?

Guess what, it would not take any work to find out they are above the military.

So maiden is right.

Well work history wise and find out the the saucer craft is more powerful than any
plane today since 1947, Operation High Jump.

The super weapon can knock out any plane and ship.

That is why you do not hear a peep out of any one in government.

They are held hostage and thats why you get the Forestalls, JFKs,
Bushes elections, IRAQ war and 9/11 demolition, they are above the law.

Power rules and they rule. You still believe in ETs or is it the rulers
way of mass mind control.