Hello all,

I am a reasonably new member here on the forums and had a question to anyone currently 'active' here who also happens to be a Mason. I estimate that well over 80% of what is written on Masonry here is a load of rubbish, yet I (and very few others) seem to be the only one trying to explain just how wrong most people are on this subject.

I come from an English family legacy of over 150 years of Freemasonry and hold a reasonably high rank myself. I would never divulge any of the secrets I have had conferred on me over the years, but some of the things I hear are just ludicrous.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Ben

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Many people take the words of Albert Pike and Manly Hall as some Masonic gospel.

ATS is not necessarily the forum to defend or promote Freemasonry. There are many self-appointed conspiracy theorists who lap up without discernment. There are also many people with an in-built curiosity who seek ready and easy answers to unanswerable questions. They have only one path to the answers, but most will not embark on it. No sad loss is it?

benjj: "I come from an English family legacy of over 150 years of Freemasonry and hold a reasonably high rank myself. I would never divulge any of the secrets I have had conferred on me over the years"

And just what would those secrets be?

And why would you need secrets?

Is it to maintain your control over us commoner peasants?

Or do you hold some information that could change our lives or create chaos if us commoner peasants would know it?

MaskedAvatar,

Very valid points. I don't feel the urge to promote or defend Masonry, though the very nature of 'Deny ignorance' seems to be way off the target here. I think curiosity is a superb mentality, though people jumping to conclusions can be rather premature in most cases.

The saga continues!

B

Pupp,

Secrets. A terrible thing to those who are not 'in on them'.

The only real secrets in Masonry are those of recognition and proving you are a member so as to be allowed into Lodges where you are not known.

They are not mine to divulge, so in that respect they shall remain untold by me.

B

benjj, you mean like touching your elbow, or your left ear lobe?

Enoc,

I don't think anyone here would disagree that there have been (and probably still are) Masons who are intrinsically 'bad' people. That said, that is the very nature of man and not limited to various groups.

As the old saying goes, "a few bad apples......". This has never been so true as to Masonry. Most die-hard conspiracists would be bored bloody rigid in a normal lodge meeting.

B

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enoc, all I gotta say is you ROCK.

Dang longest sentances I have ever seen that are full of info.

Pupp,

I'm afraid that by continuing to espouse rubbish like that you are only driving yourself further and further away from the truth.

To confirm, no elbows or ears are integral parts of any masonic initiation. That said, most masons do tend to have one or both of these body parts, could be a good conspiracy there.

Have you ever noticed that all masons seem to 'breathe' a strange invisible 'gas' too?

B

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benjj, it is common knowledge to us commoners who have learned much knowledge of your freemasonry connections that most of you who THINK you are doing good works are totally clueless.

The upper levels of the pyramid, ya know the ALL -Seeing Eye, are the ones who really know what is going on and are merely using any of you who think you are working for the good of mankind.

benjj, Actually, I can care less about your secret handshakes or signs that allow you to enter certain lodges.

But touching the left ear lobe and placing your elbow in your palm are two well know symbols or signs of the illuminated.

If that is the case PuPP then it is the 79 people here with 33rd degree grandfathers who we need to worry about.

You may be right that I am simply some faceless minion to the Masonic end of the NWO. That said, hopefully they will remember my patience and dedication to the craft when they are chosing who goes into their deep underground bunkers 5 minutes before WW3 kicks off.

B

Pupp,

Well then, why don't you drop by your nearest Illuminati HQ and drop the sign. I'm sure they will welcome you with open arms. You are everything they are looking for make no mistake.

Enoc,

While the writings of Albert Pike are regarded as nothing more than imaginitive fiction by most Masons I can understand why you think the way you do. The only advise I would give is to try and read a more varied diet of Masonic literature to get a better picture.

enoc,

Bush is related to the Windsors and some like David Icke consider them to be reptilians which I tend to agree with as I have had many experiences with these people.

Blue eyes is the key to the bloodlines.

benjj...do you have BLUE EYES?

Yep, and blonde hair. I also work for the Bank of England.

Happy?

Interesting point PuPP, I'll be sure to mention your thoughts when I am at synagogue....