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reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:09 PM by EdWardMD
reply to post by Seymour Butz



Right I'm supposed to prove your BS calculation. Mass x velocity x number. Anything is just scam BS.

Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.

Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.

There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.

BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.

Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.

Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes

Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=

First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?

""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...

google mormons in CIA - 326,000 links.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Estimating the risk of cancer associated with imaging related radiation during surveillance for stage I testicular cancer using computerized tomography. The relative risk of a secondary malignancy with surveillance compared to a single scan after retroperitoneal lymph node dissection is appr


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:20 PM by EdWardMD
reply to post by Seymour Butz



Right I'm supposed to prove your BS calculation. Mass x velocity x number. Anything is just scam BS.

Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.

Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.

There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.

BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.

Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.

Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes

Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=

First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?

""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...

google mormons in CIA - 326,000 links.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Estimating the risk of cancer associated with imaging related radiation during surveillance for stage I testicular cancer using computerized tomography. The relative risk of a secondary malignancy with surveillance compared to a single scan after retroperitoneal lymph node dissection is appr



reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:24 PM by Seymour Butz
reply to post by EdWardMD



So you can't provide any numbers then.

Got it.

Then anything you post is just scam BS.


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:28 PM by cogburn
reply to post by Seymour Butz



.... and no proof the cancers at Ground Zero were radiologically induced and not chemically induced.

Got it.

EDIT: BTW... if it was a nuke, where was the EM pulse?

[edit on 7-2-2009 by cogburn]


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:30 PM by EdWardMD
reply to post by cogburn



Right I'm supposed to prove your BS calculation. Mass x velocity x number. Anything is just scam BS.

Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.

Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.

There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.

BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.

Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.

Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes

Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=

First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?

""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...

google mormons in CIA - 326,000 links.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Estimating the risk of cancer associated with imaging related radiation during surveillance for stage I testicular cancer using computerized tomography. The relative risk of a secondary malignancy with surveillance compared to a single scan after retroperitoneal lymph node dissection is appr


reply posted on 7-2-2009 @ 02:50 PM by GenRadek
reply to post by EdWardMD



This whole idea is based solely on grossly inaccurate and misinformed ideas made from questionable observations. Mini-nukes? No way. Had there been at least one "mini-nuke", people would have noticed. Are you aware of how nuclear weapons work? If you were to set off even the smallest nuke permitted by physics, the resulting blast would have shattered windows of ALL surrounding buildings for blocks around, and this blast would have occurred BEFORE the collapse of either building. However in close observations of the WTCs before collapse, we see exterior columns that bend inwards prior to collapse. I know of no explosives that can cause this to happen.
www.youtube.com...
Also seen here just before collapse and the debris ejections:


No explosives are capable of this and also gives more evidence of no bombs.

There would have been radiation burns (Thermal, Beta, Gamma), blast damage, and a tell tale mushroom cloud. Also detonation of ANY nuclear device would result in a large amount of nuclear fallout, especially if it was detonated in a building. The entire lower and upper Manhattan area would have been exposed to large amounts of fallout and you cannot hide nuclear fallout, no matter how small the device was. That and debris would have been catapulted blocks away, not paper but steel and concrete pieces weighing hundreds of pounds. The sheer force of the even the smallest nuke would have been obvious. Not to mention the sound of a nuclear device going off.

As for the tritium levels found, you really ought to research what tritium is used in:
Most commonly used in EXIT signs, wrist watches, glow in the dark objects, and small arms sites, to name a few.

As for what happened to the debris and steel in the pile, there is another alternate, and mundane, explanation.
Its called oxidation. Its what happens when things burn. Steel rusting is actually a very slow burn. It uses up oxygen to rust the steel. In fact when a large amount of iron rusts in a large pile it heats up. When iron is heated up and water is poured on it, an exothermic reaction occurs. What is produced is hydrogen and Fe3O4, or rust. The hydrogen also reacts with steam and is also a corrosive agent. Considering that a sizable amount of iron was heated up b the fires, and subsequently buried, it would have stayed hot. Heated iron will rust faster. Pouring water on it, especially seawater, will cause even more rusting. Rust produces more heat, and its a cycle. Sulfur released from hundreds of tons of decaying drywall crushed in the pile actually lowers the melting point of steel as well, and also reacts with water to form sulfuric acid, which is extremely corrosive. In a nutshell, the conditions in the pile were extremely corrosive for weeks and got worse over time. The two most abundant oxidizing sources were water and oxygen. Add heat and its one hell of a corrosive environment. If you would like to learn more about it you can see here:
Iron Burns
Mundane Sources of "molten iron"

Oh testicular cancer caused by radiation? Ahh no. I do not see radiation as a main cause or even as a mentioned suspected source. Chemical exposure I do see. But not radiation. It seems TC is more of a family history/HIV/Age/undescended testicle. Now what SHOULD have been apparent after any nuclear detonation and later on is numerous cases of radiation sickness, hair falling out, etc, plus thyroid cancers more apparent with radiation exposure.
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