Originally posted by Haus33
The Jews ask is he Jewish ? If the Messiah is not Jewish then he is neither Messiah or Christ or Anti Christ, as he must be Jewish.
Actually, this is not quite true. The Jews do not have (for the most part)
any prerequisites related to ethnicity. Many feel believe (and
that Messiah will be for EVERYONE....all people will be blessed by GOD's anointed representative's presence among us.
Another predominant idea is that Messiah's soul is kept with God until there arises a tzaddik (saint) who both qualifies and is willing to do this
service for mankind in the name of GOD - at a time after which they have finally secured God's blessing over their own personal efforts in bringing
about the messianic age (these efforts are basically rooted in love, forgiveness, charity, and returning to God's ways)
They believe that in every generation there is a possible Messiah but that Messiah will not emerge/arrive until they have done their best in their own
part of the work.
From my personal studies (rather extensive and not restricted according to any certain religious ideas of my own) I have found that, in fact, the
Jewish traditions have far less pre-expectations of any other messianic belief system! They have been misled a few times by persons claiming to be
Messiah, but who later was proven to be after their own ends rather than God's or the world's. Yet they remain open to any new claims and will not
doubt anyone who makes such a claim until circumstances show the claim is false. Because of the unfortunate events which have occurred with past
claimants, I do think that there is far less chance of anyone making the claim without divine appointment. I think there is a lot more trepidation
because of it.
Just FYI. Also - Messiah will be a 'universal soul' - many Jews believe in reincarnation so they understand Messiah's soul has been here, many
time and many places, in diverse cultures/religions, for the purpose of ultimately being able to be empathetic and sincerely compassionate for ALL
The Muslims ask is he a Muslim ? If not he can not be the Iman Al-Mahdi. The Fundamentalist Christians say if he is all the religions Messiah
then he is the Anti Christ, Lucifer the bringer of Light.
And yet...why not YES to all of those questions?
If there is but ONE God then surely one Messiah would suffice for all religions and even
atheists and agnostics?
But isn't Jesus Christ Light of the World: (John 8:1) ask the Agnostic Scholars?
That's what I understand! The 'bright and morning star'
- which is lucifer (Latin), heosphoros (Greek), or helel (Hebrew).
And he that overcomes, and keeps my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the
vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star.
So..the one who returns to rule will be 'given' the morning star...yet this is Christ Jesus speaking, so it certainly implies that it will not be
him ruling, in person, down here on Earth. Which makes sense, taking into account that Christ is at the 'right hand' of the Heavenly throne. So
perhaps someone is going to be ruling mankind/the world according to God's will (through Christ), instead of Christ. Because, surely if he were
going to ultimately be in 'two places at once,' there would have been no need to keep us waiting 2000+ years (through some of the worst violence
and misery we've known - and much of it done, supposedly, in the various names of God!)
No, the light is Lucifer the Masonic Messiah the all seeing eye say the Catholics.
Well, since the Catholics are NOT Masons, they probably don't realize that there is no standard or official 'messiah' in the Masonic fraternity!
Besides that, whomever that 'eye' might be physically connected to...who is ultimately seeing through that eye? God! At least according to King
8 I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.
9 Be ye not as the horse, as the mule, have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle, lest they come near unto thee.
10 Many sorrows to the wicked: but he that trusts in the LORD, mercy shall compass him about.
11 Be glad in the LORD, and rejoice, ye righteous: and shout for joy, all upright in heart.
Many believe that this is the 'third eye.'
.....and the whole World awaits the Messiah !!!
You know, from what I know, God is extremely EFFICIENT - which seems logical if He is legit (and I personally am sure that He is)
. So the most
efficient plan, IMO, would be 'ONE for ALL' Messiah.
One size fits all, satisfaction guaranteed, so to speak! ALL in ALL. Last time I checked, all still meant 'all-inclusive'
and so there is
nothing that won't be in that 'ALL.'
And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which works all in all.
1 Corinthians 12:6
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be
all in all.
1 Corinthians 15:28
Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set at his own right hand in the heavenly, far above all principality, and power,
and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And has put all under his
feet, and gave him the head over all to the church, Which is his body, the fullness of him that fills all in all.
Why do you think he has not made himself public?
It's not quite time for that yet. The 'hot-line' hasn't rang yet with the word of 'All Systems Go.' Obviously we are in the 'lock and load'
Remember what happened first time round?
Vividly. Yes in DEED. Perhaps that was partly due to premature 'game-play?'
Or maybe not - that was just a random thought of mine just
The bickering and strife that his public presence would bring and the evil chaos and wars unjustly made in his name would be reason enough.
It is definitely going to be the irreversible undoing of many elitist types of religious institutions, certainly including the 9,000 or so various
flavors of Protestant Christianity and the Catholic and Orthodox churches, also.
By that, I only mean, definitely, that the dogma of elitist, conditional salvation will be rendered null and void and so many will redirect their
loyalties to the 'true' church - it is the institutions, themselves, in their Earthly workings, that will be exposed. No more income or
'trafficking' (which is the same as commercial trade/merchandising)
in the House of God! The grand finale of the overthrow of the temple
moneychangers? That, in itself, will be quite a sight!
Maybe, that is.
Who knows how these things will unfold? That, to me, is part of the anticipation!
But Global Genocide in some twisted horror movie logic end times scenario from the Dark Ages would reduce the Messiah to no more than an actor.
NO doubt. I don't think God would do that to his elected servant, do you? That is what men HOPE and believe will happen...
You'd think we'd of had enough killing and all with the Civil War and the two World Wars! I HAVE.
Do you honestly believe that the Messiah would follow the pre-arranged scripted scene by scene nightmare book of Revelation?
Well, certainly not according to the prevailing interpretation as promoted mainly by the Evangelicals!
Probably the book of Revelation IS a guide and/or road-map to assist those working toward God's wrap-up of the present age (which is in its last
death-throes). But if so, then it is in CODE and of such a supreme type that ONLY those who God intends it for would be granted understanding of the
true import. That is why that scroll is 'sealed' with seven seals. In the days it was written, Kings (and other high up officials) would seal all
their official documents with their own seal (usually kept as a 'signet' ring on their right or left hand). That way, when the document/message
arrived at its destination, whomever was in charge of opening in would KNOW FOR SURE that the King DID indeed authorize the contents; and, if
received with seal intact, were then NOT tampered with or altered in any way.
He is the Prince of Peace not a genocidal maniac.
That is CORRECT! The Prince of PEACE! World peace for all mankind! The very thing which the Evangelicals say is EVIL! Ben Franklin said there was
no such thing as a 'good' war or a 'bad' peace! I wholeheartedly agree!
He saves the children heals the sick . Why do so many people believe he wants infanticde , Global Chemical , Biological and Nuclear Warefare ,
Ethnic Sectarian cleansing and Genocide just to rid the world of his Adversary that his own father set him up to fight ?
You know why! Because this is the 'evil' that resides in the hearts of men! It will never be something God kills us all for (again) BUT it is
definitely NOT God's way, but man's!
This is the 'anti' christ which is the type which is 'opposition' against all that is of Christ - Christ is NOT divided nor is He a divider....He
is the TRUTH, LIGHT, and WAY. The express image of God. And God IS love - long-suffering, merciful, and QUICK to forgive!