i was readin times while i was at the dentist and i was reading this article about forces and how they will be and are deployed in the gulf and i read that they us have 2 carriers(lincoln and washington) and 3 more will be there by mid december(kitty hawk constellation and truman) well its obvious they are preparing for war ne one else got an opinion

From what some folks who are suppose to have a clue say, I'm hoping that the sailors and soldiers can at least celebrate Christmas before they hit the ground. Sounds like it'll be iffy, though.

really the usa brags about how the rag tag iraq army will fold like paper

No, iffy as to whether they'll enjoy Christmas before hitting the ground, not iffy in the result.

I'm keeping all options open as far as that is concerned. There are too many variables in my mind to say what will happen, especially when it seems our "friends" over there are also friends of our enemies.

I hope and Pray the can be home for christmas..i was shipped out on Dec 23 the last time we had to go to that nasty place..

5 carriers in the Guld..They will need a damn traffic cop out there to keep them from hitting each other!

Boomslang

I'm glad you get to sit this one out, Boomer. Got some friends that'll be there, and we have family members of this board that'll be there as well. I hope Hussein quits the game-playing. I doubt it, though. Now he claiming that he will probably not be able to turn over the info requested by 18 Dec. But he is fully complying.
Gosh, 23 days to show the world where his toys aren't, and he can't prepare in that time?
Yeah, I know, there's enough paperwork and red tape involved that'll keep'em tied up until the 15th, but you see my point.
Anyway, glad to see you here and not there, Boomer.

astonishing details: I'm just as astonished that the USN is letting anyone know where its carriers are at any time: "loose lips sink ships" etc. ( a sign of the collapse of Russia's military, perhaps?) -so I think this could be disinfo or only part-info.
Five carrier groups is a staggeringly powerful force (and a great many eggs, as far as the USN is concerned, to be putting in one basket) - and even with conventional weaponry a war-winner.

They had 6 carriers deployed in 1991.

• CV 60 Saratoga
  
• CV 67 John F Kennedy
  
• CV 41 Midway
  
• CV 61 Ranger
  
• CV 66 America
  
• CVN 71 Theodore Roosevelt
  
  Looks like only one was nuclear powered.
  

No, it's not disinformation, and yes, I worry about it.

My son's sub was in Yemen/Bahrain this year. What you guys may not know is that there are regularly scheduled "tours"/patrols of the area by the US Navy. My son's sub gets back into home port in 3 months and his wife can't wait. They were married in August and had exactly 2 weeks together before he was shipped off for the 6 month West Pacific tour.

We saw the Lincoln at Pearl Harbor in August... it's a huge thing; a floating city.

It bothers me that the press and public are so avid to uncover secrets. Al Qaida and others would be delighted to blow a big hole in his sub if they knew exactly when it was going to be headed into a harbor.