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reply posted on 26-4-2007 @ 12:33 PM by PaddyInf
Factors to consider are numerous, but may include;

Revolver or auto - Nowadays very few people carry revolvers. However, bear in mind that they have several advantages. They are usually extremely reliable. The stoppage drill is extremely fast (just pull the trigger again). However, they have too many disadvantages for my liking. They are (on average) about 30% wider than a semi. They have very limited capacity (5-6 rounds). They are slow to reload. Modern semis from a decent manufacturer will tend to be very reliable, so this is not really a consideration. In short, a revolver will protect you as will a semi, but a semi has the edge in my opinion. The choice is very personal, so I'll let you decide.

Calibre - Minimum of 9mm in pistols, .38 Special in revolvers. There are countless threads and debates on calibre so I won't start another. Suffice to say that the majority of shooters on here will probably agree with these minimums.

Capacity - Not really an issue with revolvers, but more so with pistols. Some say the more the better. Others say you don't need more than 7-8 rounds if you know what you're doing. I for one would carry a weapon with a minimum capacity of 10 rounds given the choice. I'd rather have these rounds an not need them than vice versa. Handguns are relatively low powered weapons, and no one can guarantee a first round stop in any pistol calibre (no matter what they say). Also there is no guarantee that you will be facing a single adversary. There are too many variables that can go wrong in a shooting. Bear in mind however that big capacities = bigger grips (usually), so this may have a bearing on concealability. I carried a Walther P5C for many years, which has a capacity of 8+1, but this is because it was what I was issued. Given the choice I would have probably gone for sometthing with a few more rounds on tap.

Finish - CCWs are carry often, use little weapons. Therefore they will be subject to lots os sweat and other forms of moisture. With proper cleaning any finish will do, but stainless will make this a bit easier. Some companies offer after market finishes that are excellent (Robar etc.), but these will cost.

Sights - High vis sights with a tritium insert will make low-light shooting a lot easier. I personnally prefer 3-dot configuration, but some prefer other types. The main thing to consider is that they can be picked up quickly. Try a few different types, see what works for you.

Size - This depends on the carry method chosen. For example an IWB holster lends itself to longer weapons as the barrel helps stabalise the pistol. An outside waistband holster in the same carry position wouls be better suited to a shorter barrel in order to cut the chancs of the muzzle sticking out below the outer garment. Width is a more important factor in concealed carry, as a thinner weapon leaves less of a bulge. This can be corrected to an extent with decent gun leather however.

In summery, My choice would be a semi auto in at least 9mm witha hard wearing finish. It will have a double figure capacity and be topped with a decent set of high-vis sights. I carry outside the waistband on the strong side, so it will have a short barrel length.

These are my opinions, and others may differ, but I think that if you stick to the above guidelines you won't go too far wrong.

[edit on 26-4-2007 by PaddyInf]


reply posted on 27-4-2007 @ 10:12 AM by kozmo
I myself carry the Sig Sauer P239 in a .40S&W. It is the exact same gun carried by the Dept. of Homeland Security, Federal Marshals, Secret Service and preferred by many police officers, FBI, ATF and CAI agents.

Learn more about it
here.

The thing I really appreciate about this piece is that it is extremely well balanced and easy to handle. Recoil is somewhat negated by the balance and the design of the firing/loading system. I recommend getting it with the iridium night sites for easiar target acquisition regardless of lighting.

Another great feature is NO SAFETY! Yeah, I know, it sounds dangerous but it's not. The trigger is dual action; 3.5 lbs. when fully cocked and 7 lbs. long trigger pull when the hammer is released. Why is this good? Well, most part-time gun handlers are going to forget to release the safety in their time of "need." This weapon is simple draw, aim and pull.

For the record, I use Federal Hydro-Shock rounds. Greater stopping power and far less over-penetration. Be careful using a 9mm... due tot he high velocity and small size of the round, it may tend to over-penetrate and lack some of the stopping power that you desire in a CCW piece. Also, avoid a hand cannon. You'll find it heavy, bulky, difficult to conceal and even more difficult to resight after you fire due to it's recoil.

Lastly. DO NOT even bother going this route unless you have the required training AND you have the will to use it if necessary. Carrying a loaded weapon does NOT make one cool, look cool nor does it deter much crime - since it's concealed. If you draw this weapon, you must be prepared to use it as an armed perp likely won't hesitate seeing you put the drop on him. Good luck and congratulations on exercising your freedom!


reply posted on 28-4-2007 @ 02:55 AM by PaddyInf
If you are serious about carrying a CCW (and you should be), then carry something that will do the job. A CCW should be a good compromise between firepower and concealability.

Very compact pistols in small calibres (.380ACP or smaller) are easy to keep hidden and are better than nothing, but may not be up to the job in the life or death situation that they are required for. If you are going to carry these, then use them as a backup, not a primary.

The SIG P239 looks like a decent option. Small and available in useful calibres. If I was going for a SIG I would probably go a step up and go with a P229 in 9mm or .40, just for the extra few rounds and a more ergonomic grip. Other options might be something in the Glock range. The Glock 36 is a decent choice if you can handle .45s (and a lot of people can't). My choice would probably be a model 19 (9mm) or 23 (.40).

As for your last comment DagoTime, you say that MOST will run away after a couple of shots, but there are plenty of times that they won't. Quite surprising how many crack addicts don't even realise they are being shot after the first 2 - 3 rounds. Armed gangs full of hormones are on the increase, and many or these boys are starting to wear body armour (crazy I know). Plenty of times they are more worried about how they look in front of their mates instead of being shot. Experience shows that they can be pretty slow to back down, even after shots are fired.

As for carrying safely and responsibly, I've been carrying off duty in N. Ireland since 1990. I have taught this subject to soldiers who have to carry concealed in N. Ireland. I'm not making this stuff up. My comments are based on past shooting reports from Ulster and around the world, mostly the USA and Africa. I take this very seriously, and I believe that if you are faced with an armed opponent you will want as much gun as you can carry. This has to be weighed against the need to conceal the weapon.

My general rule of thumb is carry as much gun as you can while still being able to conceal it properly.

[edit on 28-4-2007 by PaddyInf]

[edit on 28-4-2007 by PaddyInf]


reply posted on 24-6-2007 @ 09:43 AM by Gatordone
Originally posted by kozmo
I myself carry the Sig Sauer P239 in a .40S&W. It is the exact same gun carried by the Dept. of Homeland Security, Federal Marshals, Secret Service and preferred by many police officers, FBI, ATF and CAI agents.

Learn more about it
here.


The Sig P239 in .40 is also what I carry.

I lived in Florida when all the hurricanes were rolling through and after Katrina I decided a reliable weapon would be as important as water in an emergency.

The P239 is also available in 9mm but if you get the .40 model, a .357 barrel is interchangable. It seems like a small weapon for the heavy caliber but the balance/weight makes it much easier to reaquire your target after a shot. This pistol seem to drop right back on target immediately.

It is an expensive weapon but I got a really good deal bringing cash to the gunshow.

Be sure to have your pistol of choice with you when you pick a holster. The holster is extremely important and it must fit both you and your weapon perfectly.

Lots of good choices being discussed here but whichever you choose remember- practice, practice, practice!
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