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reply posted on 7-5-2007 @ 08:46 AM by Byrd


Cool equipment! Good rockhounding basics. Yep, I knew what they were when I saw them... had something like them years ago.


Originally posted by X-tal_PhusionScratching yields a rating of 5 (1-10 scale); not too hard & not too soft.

So, basically well within the range of glass/vitrified silica. Since the tests all fit the glass standard, what made you decide they weren't?

I've heard about the aerial burst hypothesis as well but I believe it was discounted. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.


As for the skeletons I went on an active search for peer-reviewed literature a few weeks ago and turned up just one paper about it-- that I was forbidden to access.

Skeletons in areas where there is radioactive ore (pitchblende, etc) do become radioactive after awhile. This is a problem with the collections that have material from the Morrison beds here in the US... the fossils are indeed radioactive!

However, it's not from a "nuclear war." It's because they lie in beds of pitchblende and other radioactive ores.

I'm not convinced by the crater shape... lots of things happen to craters through the ages. I think there needs to be stronger evidence that it isn't from a meteor event.



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reply posted on 9-5-2007 @ 11:04 PM by X-tal_Phusion



Originally posted by Byrd
So, basically well within the range of glass/vitrified silica. Since the tests all fit the glass standard, what made you decide they weren't?...Skeletons in areas where there is radioactive ore (pitchblende, etc) do become radioactive after awhile...not from a "nuclear war."...they lie in beds of pitchblende and other radioactive ores... not convinced by the crater shape... lots of things happen to craters through the ages. I think there needs to be stronger evidence that it isn't from a meteor event.


I never said it wasn't glass. I did say that I thought there was too much silica and too little water for it to be of volcanic origin. The density disqualifies it as vitrified nuclear waste-- never mind the obvious age discrepancy (unless Tut's scarab is chalcedony; solubility tests and Mohs harness of 7 exclude this). The LDG itself is not hot at all.

In fact, I'm inclined to agree that natural geology accounts for the radiation but I would still like to see the literature (recent if possible). My original home town sits over large uraninite deposits so I am familiar with the consequences of natural radiation (i.e., isotopic dating adjustments required for dating material in the area).

I agree that any number of things could have happened since the craters formed but I do wonder why there are two candidate source craters of similar age nearby.. which seems to suggest (in addition to scientific arguments) that LDG is not an impactite. Is there reason to believe that neither of these craters are sources for LDG? Perhaps LDG are impactites but we have the wrong site. Still, if this is a common impactite, why aren't we finding impactites identical to LDG in other desert regions untouched by nuclear testing?



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reply posted on 10-5-2007 @ 08:44 AM by Byrd



Originally posted by X-tal_PhusionI agree that any number of things could have happened since the craters formed but I do wonder why there are two candidate source craters of similar age nearby..

Probably caused by a single object breaking up as it entered the atmosphere. This does happen frequently.


Is there reason to believe that neither of these craters are sources for LDG?

Not as far as I know. The evidence is pretty consistant.


Perhaps LDG are impactites but we have the wrong site.

A good point, and a real possibility.


Still, if this is a common impactite, why aren't we finding impactites identical to LDG in other desert regions untouched by nuclear testing?

I bleive we have... the qualification being 'similar'. As you know, soils vary greatly, so tektites formed in one area will be somewhat different from those formed in other areas.



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reply posted on 30-5-2007 @ 08:59 PM by sy.gunson


Plutonium shouldn't occur in nature but in the Congo basin at a place called Shinkolobwe, deposits of plutonium were found. Just thought it worth adding to the pile of information.

My view is there would be more widespread radiological evidence had their been any ancient nuclear war.



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 01:52 AM by Marduk


I don't think its a factor really
I remember the home education we got when nuclear war looked like a real possibility back in the 70s
it started one day when our morning school assembly featured a teacher with a blowtorch and a piece of pork teaching us what burnt human flesh would smell like in the event of an attack. It then moved on to informing us that at the noise of the three minute warning we had to paint all the windows white and then take off all the doors in the house and cover them with pillows and form a nest adjacent to an inner wall where we should place a supply of food and drinking water, changes of clothes and sanitary goods to last us for the two years we would need to stay inside the refuge to avoid dying from radiation poinsoning which should by then have worked its way out of the local environment.

of course being poor in those days was a big advantage because we only had one door, one window no pillows and were used to eating far less to survive.

now theyre saying what
by the time its rained a couple of times all the radiation will have been washed away so if you don't find yourself looking like an instant leper in a wind tunnel when the bomb goes off chances are you'll be okay

still its funny because David Hatcher Childress in one of his books claimed that the indus city of Harappa was nuked and the evidence for this he presented was some highly radioactive skeletons found buried under a wall in the late 19th century
the fact that the geiger counter wasn't invented for another 30 years doesnt really detract from his claimed evidence that didn't appear in any of the factual archaeological data does it ?
i expect the skeletons were probably glowing bright yellow or something so thats how they knew what it was

either that or if you like you can put it down as a cover up by the only actual people qualified to know
thats the usual appraoch isnt it ?



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 04:19 AM by sy.gunson


Most of the so called evidence for this theory is the widespread occurrence of tektites which in actual fact are splashes of glass from big meteor strikes.

Sorry to prick the bubble but aside from natural Plutonium in the Congo there is really no other evidence.



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reply posted on 4-6-2007 @ 05:50 AM by iCEdTenG


Interesting stuff ill have to look more into it



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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 08:17 AM by bridas


Seems the ancient atomic blast site in India might be part of a cover-up.

"So, let us discover what might be the best evidence. The first question is whether a Francis Taylor existed. There is a Francis Taylor, an American museum director, who died in 1957. He was not an archaeologist. There is a “Franciscio Taylor”, but he is not the above quoted Francis Taylor.
Not a good start. Sceptics have also wondered whether the ancient atomic warfare is not a modern invention, to deflect attention from a serious – modern – atomic contamination. In 1998, it was reported that an Indian power stations had some major problems. One had an incident in which 2000 workers became exposed to excess radiation, 300 of which had to be hospitalised.
Surendra Gadekar also investigated the conditions of villagers at Rawatbhatta in Rajasthan and discovered gross radiation-related deformities. We note that Rawatbhatta is in the same region as the discovery of the “ancient warfare” site. But Gadekar did not find evidence of ancient warfare, but evidence of modern negligence: wood that had been used in the power plant, had then “somehow” made his way into society, where it was subsequently used as wood for a fire. This in itself was a minor incident, but could there have been more serious incidents, whereby it was decided to deflect attention from the present to the ancient past?
We thus find that there no newspapers carried the story of the discovery. The Indian archaeological authorities are not aware of the story. And there is a government laboratory in Jodhpur, Rajasthan. Might something have gone wrong in the latter?"

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reply posted on 7-6-2007 @ 03:50 PM by CinLung-Part-1



Originally posted by Marduk

I remember the home education we got when nuclear war looked like a real possibility back in the 70s
it started one day when our morning school assembly featured a teacher with a blowtorch and a piece of pork teaching us what burnt human flesh would smell like in the event of an attack. It then moved on to informing us that at the noise of the three minute warning






Wowwww, wou wou wait there. So you are saying your teacher was teaching you how to defense from nuke blast. Question, just how your teacher knew and understood the effect of atomic blast before he/she could teach you anything?

One can assume, your teachers has been experiencing the great blast of nuke. They have studied the effect from what they have done on Japan Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

What I am saying is that, British went to America, and America bombed Japan. British recorded it and gave lesson to their children about how bad the atomic/nuke blast is.



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reply posted on 8-6-2007 @ 12:51 AM by Marduk



Originally posted by CinLung-Part-1

One can assume, your teachers has been experiencing the great blast of nuke. They have studied the effect from what they have done on Japan Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

What I am saying is that, British went to America, and America bombed Japan. British recorded it and gave lesson to their children about how bad the atomic/nuke blast is.



assume all you like
they got all their info from a government leaflet which was posted to all residences in the UK
that and from watching Apocalypse now



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