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reply posted on 2-11-2008 @ 09:11 PM by ANNED
A longbow because it is easy to account for having it.

I have a long bow i am skilled with and have used as part of my costume and have shot them as a archer for Renaissance Festivals, Mountain Men Rendezvous. and even for a Scottish Renaissance fair.

en.wikipedia.org...

The renaissance faires i go as a Scottish archer in my highlander great kilt.
www.goldcoastfestivals.com...
farm3.static.flickr.com...

This covers any reason for having a longbow.

The fact it is also a weapon for your survival kit will never enter a cops mind.

In a SitX even if i have the best guns i will carry my longbow.

A longbow has to many uses like quiet hunting, Taking out sentry's,
Scaring the c**p out of any "unfriendly types" that leave there camp to take a leak. If you hit them there friends will be wondering where/who the next one will hit.
If you miss you will still get the POINT across.
It can also be used to drop fire or small explosive charges in someone camp at 0 dark 30

A good 75 to 90 pound long bow can lob a arrow over 200 feet into a camp and it will come straight down when it lands. making it hard to find the source.
This would give a unfriendly group nightmares after one was hit. Or even if no one was hit and they found the arrows in the morning.


reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 10:23 AM by CallSign
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
I know this thread is about weapons and i'd suggest a bow, however i have an even better suggestion.

Trapping. Learning to build traps will be one of the best ways to get food. Think of it as a numbers game. When you're out hunting you hope to come across an animal by tracking it. You hope to kill it first shot so you don't have to chase it, and you have to expend an awful lot of energy following it.

Now look at a trap. You can set up multiple traps along trails or baited. You can set lots of traps quickly for small animals like rabbits, or you can make big traps for deer, boars etc.

Small traps for rabbits take only 2 minutes to set up for each one, if we're talking about snares. They're pretty reliable as well as you should set them up directly on well used trails. Set up 10 of them and you have plenty of chances.

Simply as the numbers go it's better and easier to use traps. The added advantage is that you can set it up, walk away and theres no more input other than to check it. Minimal energy expended. You can even set them up so that when they catch something it holds it out of reach of common predators like foxes.

So yeah personally i like traps and you could always supplement that with hunting if you wished.



Very sensible advice here. Tracking and hunting is a very energy intensive activity, not to mention the calories you will be burning just by maintaining your body temperature in a possibly very cold environment. If you don't know what you're doing you could be in for a few frustrating, and hungry days. If you do make the kill, you could be miles from home with a heavy animal carcass to drag with you.

Tracking is, as they say, the way forward. Hunting is not without it's merits though.

From a survival standpoint, you should never be without a quality fixed blade - as both a tool and a weapon.

I once had a 150lb draw crossbow and can verify the penetration that has been remarked upon by others. I used to use, amongst other things, acquired metal roadsigns for example, with straw bales behind, and very often the only thing stopping it going right through was the fletching.

Not much experience with long bows, however, one big advantage of the crossbow that has not been mentioned before is the ability to fire it from the prone position.

I also found it to be very reliable, if looked after and maintained like any other weapon or tool.


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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 05:24 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by CallSign



"I think broadheads are illegal in the UK. I may be wrong though. I bought my crossbow nearly ten years ago, and the staff in the shop advised me that hunting with it was illegal and that broadheads were illegal too. "
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It wouldn't surprise me as they do look pretty lethal. I was so surprised to find that you didn't need a license to own one! Now all I have to do is create a strong enough target so that the bolts don't just go straight through. I'm thinking along the lines of sandbags, etc.



reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 05:40 PM by CallSign
reply to post by Mintwithahole.



Sandbags are good, or anything dense like that. Be aware of what is behind your target area too in case you miss or penetrate the target, as a 150lb crossbow will easily put a bolt through a fence or hedge and out into the public domain. And that is something you can get lifted for, not to mention injuring someone.

It would be interesting to hear how you get on, am thinking of getting back into the market for one again.


reply posted on 19-11-2008 @ 03:57 PM by Mintwithahole.
Originally posted by CallSign
reply to
post by Mintwithahole.



Sandbags are good, or anything dense like that. Be aware of what is behind your target area too in case you miss or penetrate the target, as a 150lb crossbow will easily put a bolt through a fence or hedge and out into the public domain. And that is something you can get lifted for, not to mention injuring someone.

It would be interesting to hear how you get on, am thinking of getting back into the market for one again.


I've seen 150lb draw crossbows put a bolt straight through a car at 100 feet! Like you say, they are very powerful, and up to 65 yards (about 195feet) extremely accurate. As for targets! There's a guy on youtube who shows you how to build a target out of cardboard box's!!! He swears that his design works. I'm not willing to take the chance and am sticking with the sandbag option.


reply posted on 20-11-2008 @ 08:40 AM by crgintx
reply to post by traderjack



Oh, yes, Trader Jack, I've worked for the US gov't for 22 years and no quite well how retentive the hard-core bureaucrats can be. However, during times of crises, their fatal and permanently disabling accident rate skyrockets for some reason.
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