Anti-Christ has arrived, gaining followers...

Armageddon will happen mostly on personal level. It's a battle for your mind.

Sooner you will all realize how united you are and how you can coexist the better. World War 3 is in making by your secret leaders, so you need to hurry up or experience some radioactive fireworks.

It's always same manipulation for thousands of years -- people think they are in control but in fact secret occult groups are pulling all the strings.

You need to DESTROY them peacefully, that is the key. Or suffer. Your choice.


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Do you mean the band Lamb of God? Hell yeah.

More Satyricon than Lamb of God. They are too soft for my taste.

And he's not even support Biblically.

No he's not coming. Do you realize that only 1/3rd of all Christians believe in the end times scenario and the anti-Christ? It's mostly American Evangelists who've twisted this scripture around, including the whole book of Revelation.

Did you know that.........

1. the word "antichrist" is only found in 4 Bible passages?
2. the word "antichrist" is not found even once in the book of Revelation?
3. All were penned by Apostle John?
4. All passages are within the books of First John and Second John?
5. The Greek word from which our English word "antichrist" is translated is very easy to understand?
6. It is a simple compound word and means "anti" + "Christ" = "antichrist"?

"Anti-Christ" is anyone who opposes Christ.

1 Jn 2:18-19-"Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us."

Question: When John wrote this book in about 85 AD, had the antichrist come yet?

Look closer please! 1 Jn 2:18-19

• "even now many antichrists have arisen"
• "They went out from us"
• "Children, it is the last hour"

Question: Is one antichrist going to arise or many?

Answer: Even now many antichrists have arisen.

1 Jn 2:18-19 - "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also." 1 Jn 2:18-19

Question: Who does the Bible identify as the antichrist?

Answer: the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ?

James 2:19 says - "You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder"

• The Devil already knows that Jesus is the Christ
• The Devil believes in Christ more than many Christians
• The Devil shudders because he knows his destruction is near.

Who is the antichrist according to 1 John 2:22-23?

1 John 4:2-3 - "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son."
"By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."

Question: Who does the Bible identify as the antichrist?

Answer: The liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ.

Lets look closer at the verse:

1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."

Question: When does the Bible say the antichrist will arise?

Answer: Before John made this statement over 1900 years ago.

2 John 1:7 - "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."

Question: Who does the Bible identify as the antichrist?

Answer: Anyone who does not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh.

Now look closer at the verse:

2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."

Question: When does the Bible say the antichrist will arise?

Answer "have gone out into the world" (past tense) The anti-christs have already come.

OK, maybe you are right, maybe AC is just a myth but in case he is for real you are doing him a favor trying to convince people he doesn't exist. Sounds familiar, like that greatest trick from the Satan.

Don't worry he is alive today and he will destroy your church.

Detonator quote> "but in case he is for real you are doing him a favor trying to convince people he doesn't exist."

Trust me.....if the Anti-Christ is real and living today, people will find out who he is if he rises to power like the end of days people claim he will. Besides all the Christians will have been raptured anyway....right? And nobody has stated or interpreted the Bible to say that one has to believe in the Anti-Christ and last days scenario to qualify as a christian. That would eliminate 2/3rds of all christians.

I trust you, but people are sometimes ignorant even when you appear right in front of them. Ah well, even better for spreading the net and catch some Fish.

There are many Anti-Christs' who have come already and many who will come in the future. What do you think the Christians called Pope Innocent III? Anyone who lives contrary to the principles of Christ could be considered an Anti-Christ.

But there is 'Satan' as a Being who will manifest in flesh into a human being and unlike the Anti-Christ, this will only happen once.

Now Jesus Christ is not coming back in the flesh as a human again. That happened ONLY once and the Second Coming of Christ is in Spirit, that is what John refers to of Him coming on a cloud. With this in mind, does it not make it more clear who the imposters are; coming from the East and West from the retreat etc?


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Yes, Satan (Ahriman) incarnated and he is not worried about false Antichrists. Depends how you look at this matter. I mean Satan incarnate when i talk about Antichrist, but at same time we could say people against or pretending to be Christ are Anti-Christs. In both cases we are correct.

Ahriman incarnation is total dedication towards humanity even if it's hard to comprehend how would Satan help people. Yes, he helps people, but many people are not familiar with Steiner and similar works and they are very afraid or even want to kill him, which is unproductive for evolution.

I think this year will be very interesting. I see some things much clearer now.

I agree with most of you when you say the anti-christ isnt going to promote himself as the "anti-christ" but as the son of God. He'll have a third of the world believing in him because of the deeds and miracles he perform.

What has this S. American dude ever done? Anyone can get a tattoo and gather a following.

I'd be more concerned if someone today claimed to be Jesus. Also, someone mentioned that anyone who's against Christ is the Anti-christ Yes, thats listed in the bible...however, the King James is HEAVILY edited.

In ancient texts, Jesus said that we are all the sons of God if we let him into the kingdom within your soul. Once that happens, then you can see God.

By the time King James I edited the bible, he twisted the texts so much that it hardly makes sense non Christians. It was suppose to be for all religions, but of course, the English made it theyre own and corrupted it. For more on King James I, just wikipedia his name or google it. You'll see he was no saint.

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So if you want to know real reason why Antichrist will proclaim himself God, look at it that way, as you said, Jesus talked about this truth too. We all are God and we all form God. Inside us there is Kingdom, not inside Bible or Church, but inside your limitless being.

So, logically, best way to tell people that is to proclaim yourself God and to show people they can do the same. Done right way it can have great effect. Many people already are aware how limitless they are.

Someday we will all understand this. Maybe then we will incarnate on primitive planets and educate angry people how not to kill.

Sweft Quote>"But there is 'Satan' as a Being who will manifest in flesh into a human being and unlike the Anti-Christ, this will only happen once."

Well Sweft, I will admit this idea makes for good fictional drama, the kind needed to sell lots of books and tapes to eager and curious folks possessing vivid imaginations. There's just one problem.......there is no biblical scripture to support this fantasy. Nowhere in the Bible does it even remotley indicate that Satan will manifest in the flesh.

John Nelson Darby sure created a stir didn't he?

the 4 eferences mentioned above

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1 John 2:17-19 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)
1 John 2:22
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:21-23 (in Context) 1 John 2 (Whole Chapter)
1 John 4:3
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1 John 4:2-4 (in Context) 1 John 4 (Whole Chapter)
2 John 1:7
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2 John 1:6-8 (in Context) 2 John 1 (Whole Chapter)


He is also referred to as the son of perdition

2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 (King James Version)
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2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


Revelation 13:16-18 (King James Version)
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16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


no doubt about it antichrist for sure

Detonator quote > "So if you want to know real reason why Antichrist will proclaim himself God"

There have been, and will continue to be many people who deny Christ, they are considered "anti-christs". That's all the scriptures have to say about the term "anti-christ".

The term "the beast" used in the Book of Revelation is generally regarded by most theologians to be John identifying Nero Caesar. Nobody fully understands what that book is really about. As far as we can tell, it's the apostle John's vision of the coming destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD at the hands of the Roman empire, as well as, the coming day of pentecost, establishment of the church, etc, all of which has already occured.

The battle was won at the cross. There is no need for any more battles.

WAIT A MINUTE!!! In this link he is claiming to be the second coming of Jesus Christ!? I'm confused. You can't be the Second Coming AND be the Anti-Christ. Can anyone shed some light on this?

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

tom_roberts....... if you examine this verse closely, you can see that John is addressing little children of his day. This verse is not meant to be intrepreted as if John were speaking to anyone in the 21st century or any other period in time for that matter. Whereby "we know that it is the last time". "We" meaning "John" and the "little children". He says "it is" the last time. Not "it will be" the last time or "the last time is coming". John is speaking of the end of "jewish society of the day" as it is happening, and the coming destruction of Jersusalem by the Romans.

You will find that most of the scripture that is twisted and misinterpreted as modern end times prophecy, clearly refers to what's happening at the time it was said. It is clearly not referring to a period of time almost two thousand years later.

tom_robert......all these verses in Thessalonians and Revelation are not referring to some anti-christ world ruler of the future. These verses are referring to Nero Caesar and the Roman empire.

Here's the best explanation of what the Mark of the Beast 666, etc, is all about......

The first readers of Revelation were told to “calculate the number of the Beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six” (13:18). Since Revelation was written to a first-century audience, we should expect the first-century readers to be able to calculate the number with relative ease and understand the result. They would have had few candidates from which to choose. Notice that the number is “six hundred and sixty-six, not three sixes.” Tim LaHaye, the popular co-author of the Left Behind series of books, misidentifies the number when he writes, “The plain sense of Scripture tells us that it comprises the numbers: six, six, six.”2 The three Greek letters that make up the number represent 600, 60, and 6.

Ancient numbering systems used an alpha-numeric method. This is true of the Latin (Roman) system that is still common today: I=1, V=5, X=10, L=50, C=100, D=500, M=1000. Greek and Hebrew follow a similar method where each letter of their alphabets represents a number. The first nine letters represent 1–9.3 The tenth letter represents 10, with the nineteenth letter representing 100 and so on. Since the Book of Revelation is written in a Hebrew context by a Jew with numerous allusions to the Old Testament, we should expect the solution to deciphering the meaning of six hundred and sixty-six to be Hebraic. "The reason clearly is that, while [John] writes in Greek, he thinks in Hebrew, and the thought has naturally affected the vehicle of expression."

When Nero Caesar's name is transliterated into Hebrew, which a first-century Jew would probably have done, he would have gotten Neron Kesar or simply nrwn qsr, since Hebrew has no letters to represent vowels. “It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero's name provides us with precisely the value of 666. Jastrow's lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling.”5 When we take the letters of Nero's name and spell them in Hebrew, we get the following numeric values: n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666. “Every Jewish reader, of course, saw that the Beast was a symbol of Nero. And both Jews and Christians regarded Nero as also having close affinities with the serpent or dragon. . . . The Apostle writing as a Hebrew, was evidently thinking as a Hebrew. . . . Accordingly, the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the name—that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment that he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as ‘Neron Kesar.’”

The fragment supports the reading of some Greek New Testament manuscripts that read 616 instead of 666. Why would someone making a copy of the Revelation scroll make such a number change? “Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (nrwn qsr) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nrw qsr) is equivalent to 616.” A Latin copyist might have thought that 666 was an error because Nero Caesar did not add up to 666 when transliterated into Latin. He then changed 666 to 616 to conform to the Latin rendering since it was generally accepted that Nero was the Beast. In either case, a Hebrew transliteration nets 666, while a Latin spelling nets 616. Nero was the “man” and either 666 or 616 was his number.



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Kozmo quote>"WAIT A MINUTE!!! In this link he is claiming to be the second coming of Jesus Christ!? I'm confused. You can't be the Second Coming AND be the Anti-Christ. Can anyone shed some light on this?"

Yes I can shed some light on this for you. This guy is a "NUTBAG"! Now stop paying attention to lunatics and go out and do something worthwhile with your time!

iandavis,

Have you ever read or heard of Faust? The Being that opposes him is also the same being that is moving man so steadily into materialism today. What we call natural is actually his working - the electric pulse in your body is decayed light, as is magnetism decayed sound. Unless you understand his influences, you are not expected to believe in a spiritual nature, let alone a manifestation into flesh.

Lucifer already had his incarnation in 2900 BC and man was prepared for him at that time such that his coming worked in man's favour.

Satan will have his time also and whether we force him to work in our favor, is up to mankind. I could tell you that all the jokes about the potatoe head are actually not a joke and that the potatoe itself was brought into Europe to work in Satan's favor. The potato diet and it's effect on man is one facsinating story to tell.

So far both the scientific community and theologians are playing straight into his hands.

[edit on 8-5-2007 by sweftl337]

One thing i forgot before and it's about these false Antichrists -- them appearing is a sign real Antichrist is, well, for real and will be active soon. I think it's in Revelations.