posted on Jan, 5 2004 @ 04:48 AM
now that is way to long to quote so i will cut and paste your jargon.
"Every possible form which energy and/or matter can take, must be in use and exists today in time and space. Why? Because we are always in the middle
of Eternity. Eternity is a two way street. Eternity runs both ways don't you know. These forms will include universes about which we know nothing. It
will include undiscovered transformations of energy/matter, and any other undiscovered condition, forms or expressions which energy and/or matter may
to understand our modern time and space we put them in a physical state, what was before the big bang, our universe came from something and that
something existed before time and space before our universe, and since that it rules out thoms law, and its meaning for the fact that something came
from nothing becuz there is no way you can sit there and tell me the big bang is a concrete idea, in fact over half the scientist believe in god and
in the fact that the big bang theory is there only to let our minds grasp reality and our universe.
"That is, the Christians give God a good, moral and powerful character. Now character can not be developed in a vacuum. Character must be developed
by trial and error. Character must be developed by finding out what is good and what works. To do this one must also find out what is bad and does not
work. Character must always answer the question, "Why?" in order to develop. Character is a growth process.
Therefore, there must have been other individuals and intelligences with whom God could interact in order to develop a good character. There must be
at least a family of them. Therefore, God is not alone. So, other intelligence demands some type of setting in which they could interact. They must
have a place, a home of sorts. So we now must allow God to have at least a family, a home and a setting, or a place of operating, in order to develop
his character. So that is strike two against a creator God being by HIMSELF, and at the same time having both a good character and ultimate science
knowledge. God could not decree himself a good character or vast scientific knowledge. He would not know what was good or what to decree. He must have
developed that knowledge."
well if you read the bible which i trust you have not and only picked and choosen those which go with your theory "sign of a non christian and well
satan not saying your satan" but you would have read the part where god says lucifer/satan was cast out of the heavens along with his followers into
hell or their heaven, it also mentions that this was done before the existence of man, and if that is so then your character statement has no
credibility or speech statement, becuz there were angels before us already in heaven, therefore it also leaves the idea open for the fact that the
angels were aliens or another human race gone wrong or right and maybe still exist somewhere.
and if so god has does this before.
now your translation arguement, it has been translated many times, but the jewish word for that time frame did not consist of pluralism for god
because god is not plural, which leaves it open for translation, and plurals werent even defined in their language it is a understood plural just like
you find in spanish or latin or sacilian or babylonian or assyrian. etc.
"Now it is a fact, you can not put a strain on zero. You can multiply it. You can divide it. You can add it. You can kick zero around, abuse it,
smash it, cast it aside and guess what? It is still a perfect zero. So I do here by declare ZERO to be the only perfect number in the universe.
Nothing you can do to it changes the value of ZERO. It is always and for ever - ZERO. You just can not get anything out of ZERO except ZERO. And
NOTHING is ZERO. And ZERO is NOTHING. A God did not and COULD NOT come out of ZERO."
zero in higher math can be altered, in fact zero is not so perfect, once you get into theoretical math zero is not used because of the fact that zero
is so non-perfect.
damn i feel so mean right now cutting your aurgument to peices and even beating it by simple logic.
"Since the Old Testament God told his tale first and then the New Testament God plagiarized his work, I must assume the New Testament God is the real
liar in this case. Of course, if you do not wish to give the New Testament God the credit for this lie, you could give that credit to the writers of
the holy book"
you make no sense here so i have to take it any way possible, the old testiment was told by a bunch of prophets of fortune tellers if you will, a
bunch of dreamers, but it was also a story about their life and how GOD played a role in it, the new testiment was written by humans trying to explain
a supernatural force, which was jesus, how this one man created so many miracles how he went into the temple and cursed at the jewish priest for their
this is were the jewish religion and catholic religion divide, jewish belive jesus was a prophet setting them back on the road to rightousness, and
catholics believe he was the son of man sent down here to redeem our sins and our original sins.
and about your coment on santa, he does exist, but he exist as a spirit because he is dead, if you were a christian you would know this and since you
dont i would come to take that you are not christian. santa is saint nick or nicolas 'something' now during his time he lived during great pain
what many now would consider a 4th world country he brought peace and gifts to the orphans and the unfortunate much like mother teresa did, he was
made a saint by the catholic faith because of his contributions to man and god, hence the begining of christmas, but they put two together, the
celebration of one mans kindness and christ's birth, and the 25 of december was chosen for a few reasons cant remember which but it has alot of logic
and symbolism in it, it was not chosen at rondom.
and because of this many put the three kings in with christ's birth because they confuse the idea of st. nick, in actuality the three kings did not
come for some time later, and if you notice in true traditional catholic belief you will celebrate christmas till the day of the kings, which was when
the three kings came unto baby jesus.
there goes your santa theory right out the _
you will not win against me i have been trained in the arts of religious war. i am a theology ninja