Originally posted by Enlightened
What if I said that there really is no such thing as choice?? What if your choices are simply illusions and that your so called relative choices are
not an act of your own will at all but rather you are being manipulated by a being who enjoys being a puppet master of sorts. How do you know that
this is not the case?? If you do, then prove it to me...
This is the case for most people. You can only make a choice when you're aware of the choice, otherwise it's a non-choice. This is why freedom is so
boasted in US, to create this illusion and maintain it - best slaves are those who think they are free. We are an experiment! There is a puppet master
who controls and rules over all of us, we're nothing but slaves/sheeple who gave up their will and their minds.
Choice exists, but most are not aware of it, because they CHOSE this level of awareness in the first place. Most people are reaction machines: They
have many programs runnin in their minds that create a simulation of consciousness, when in reality they simply REACT to stimuli, without conscious
choice on their part.
Example: Someone says "How are you?" and most people's response is "Fine, how are you?". This wasn't a conscious choice, it was a mere reaction
based on programming. Entire conversations can be held without consciousness being present for the most part.
Once again, proof doesn't exist, only knowledge. What is proof to you is not proof to someone else, and vice versa. If you think that your choices
are not really your own, and that you're nothing but a puppet, then what about your consciousness? Are you not self-aware, are you not conscious? I
think, therefore I am. Your thoughts, your consciousness, this is definitely present, in some form. It might not be physically located INSIDE you, but
For example, if I take your idea under consideration, then perhaps your consciousness is actually the consciousness of the puppet master, and you are
under the illusion that it is yours. Well what is the difference then, if you are AWARE of the consciousness anyway, and you are able to make a CHOICE
based on that awareness?
If we're all just remote-controlled robots, then there is no free will, there is no choice, there are no punishments for our choices as we would have
no choices. However, this is not the case. Not because I don't want it to be, but because I am consciously aware of my mind, of my existance, and of
my own choices. It takes a lot of work to actually make a choice which is not based on a PROGRAM, but instead make a conscious choice based on the
creative principle, instead of the entropic principle. It only takes a lot of work because we've been programmed since childhood, and it takes effort
to remove those programs. Religions are just more programs that are designed to create the illusion of choice as they manipulate your emotions and
wishful thinking nature to basically MAKE you choose. Once your emotions are trapped and have a hold over you, the elites then have a hold over you by
controlling your emotions. Religion is a very service to self thing, it's all about reward for YOU from God, or punishment for YOU if you don't
obey. It is part of a hierarchy that only exists in a service to self world.
So technically it is possible to create a race of beings with no choice of their own, and completely controlled by complex programs. We have many of
those running in our minds. However, the more AWARENESS and KNOWLEDGE these beings receive, the more CONSCIOUS they become of themselves and their
reality, the more they will be able to really CHOOSE instead of just REACTING, and the more free will they will have.
To be fully controlled drones means we would not have much conscious awareness, which is indeed missing from many people. Choice exists only because
of the nature of the universe, and if you have a soul, you have a choice. If you do not have a soul, you have much less free will, although you always
have potential for a soul and therefore STILL have a choice, although bleak. Intelligence never fully lacks a soul, because a soul is consciousness,
and consciousness permeates all things.
How do I know what the nature of the universe is? Well, considering the fact that all that exists is consciousness, and that all possibilities that
could ever possibly happen already did, do, and will, simultaneously, then you can see that anything and everything that ever happens is based on
CHOICE of that consciousness, nothing is outside of "everything", which is consciousness.
This reality is designed for lessons, for lessons on different levels, and the only thing that truly exists is KNOWLEDGE. Once you possess more
knowledge, your consciousness expands and you are aware of MUCH MORE than you were before. Your perception changes and accomodates your new awareness,
you are able to SEE more of reality than you could before, just with knowledge.
The universe has no limits, it has no beginnings, no ends, no TIME. It has no boundaries, no rules, no control. There is illusion of control on the
part of limited awareness, due to service to self orientation and the willingless to be controlled in return for something for the SELF. Otherwise,
you can not be controlled, you cannot be judged, and you cannot ever be interfered with. Knowledge protects, Ignorance endangers. If you choose
ignorance, or existance that is based on same, then you shall obviously not have the knowledge to protect yourself from certain influences that are
out to control you and consume your energy, to utilize your life force for themselves, the same way you utilize the life force of others (your food
for example) for YOUR self. The food chain, or the rabbit hole, runs much deeper than you think.
Space and Time are only illusions necessary to provide our lessons at this "moment". The only thing that exists, as you by now should realise, is
thought. All else is an illusion for the purposes of lessons. This realisation is not so hard to arrive at, if you open your mind and think
[Edited on 26-4-2004 by lilblam]