Alright, besides all the so-called technical flaws in the lunar landing photos such as reflections, lighting, film, flag being upright etc, that can all be discredited. All of which was eventually explained rationally by scientists, and photographers who understood the technical side of being on the moon.

We can get to the bottom of this in the fastest way possible NOT going there and looking for the Lunar rover etc. BUT observing and talking to the people were according to some "supposedly" landed on the moon. Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong were two of the best pilots not just in the Air Force but as astronaunts aswell. Two men who worked their asses off and were always proud to be who they were, doing what they were and lastly to respresent where they came from (America in particular [Cold War? remember]).

Fact of the matter is, if it was faked neither man could live a lie so large as that one. For me that ends the discussion right there, dead in its tracks. Both men are PROUD, NOBEL, men who worked SO damn hard to become and get the chance to become astronaunts. No chance they could keep that a secret it would literally rip their mind's apart. The guilt they would feel. I mean lets face it many times a day they are reminded by just the people they meet of what they did. Think they could keep it up? NO way. They're integrity and pride and human nature completely in my opinion kills the chance of it being a fraud, they themselves would be entire frauds if so. But not so, so. :/

ACCEPT IT, THEY LANDED. So many sad gullable people jumping on the bag wagon because of a few technicalities that they barely understand so the figure who else could. But they've been dealt with and answered. Photos are genuwine. INFACT some of those photos reveal interesting supposed "ufos", or "lights" that they saw on Apollo 11. While circling the dark side and when landed. I'm not sure if the transmission messages of they're eyewitness accounts are credible. Those words could just be made up. Someone knows what I'm talking about, can anyone elaborate further on the photos, ufo transmissions of Apollo 11?

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Finally someone posting something explaining that we did land on the moon. I couldn't believe it when I saw that special on Fox. It was such a joke, but what can you expect from Fox, the channel that brought us such films as "When Pigs Attack Vol. 13" and "World's Funniest Videos of People Being Tortured Vol. 43"

Everything you said is pure opinion and holds no truth when it comes to the facts...if you want the people to believe a lie..tell them a big one. And besides....you say that it really happened just because the pilots of the space craft were "proud and nobel men"?well what if they had been brainwashed into thinking that faking the moon landing was in the best intrest of the nation because it made us look superior to the soviets during the "cold war".Fake or not...it worked..so if it was faked and it helped the nation..i feel that the people involved are probably proud of what they have done..it was faked in order to help the nation...it was the biggist covert mission ever...tons of lies have been told by poeple you would probably call "proud and nobel men"...prouder and more nobel men have told worse lies than the fake moon landing..


*{im not sure if it was fake or not...thats the problem with a government that lies constantly}

exactly, FOX is in a money making corporate television world, they want ratings, for what? increased advertisement revenues etcs. The whole faked moon landing thing was for some people to make a quick easy buck off of either books, programs, tapes, television programs claiming it was fake. But they couldn't be further from the truth, the Lunar landing was infact the most real, and largest human accomplishment of that time, maybe still is.


Well Mr. Gotti I believe human integrity and human spirit something scientists dont know much about goes alot further into knowing the truth. IF they were brainwashed certainly alot of other people would TAKE LARGE NOTICE in this those astronauts being brainwashed. Brainwashing isnt a solid proven ability or technique, it can be done but its not effective it leaves people like drones, not very social and very mixed up. Those astronaunts were celebrities among flight technicians and the whole staff of NASA. ARE you saying they must have been brainwashed too? Please we have to remain alot more skeptical in a day of age when dis-information is a click, and key away.

I'd bet the farm on my case. My opinion yes, also the EXTREME vast opinion of scientists and astronomers worldwide, if they don't debate it, and they're the most credible, and intelligent when it comes to things like this. I mean just go with the flow, all signs point to yes. Some people just have to go against the current to be recognized and given attention and to make money. The fake lunar landing argument the crowning example of this.

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The moon landing being a hoax is a joke.

I have never seen more than a couple people that could keep a secert there is NO way thousands of people could be involved in this thing and it not be a total clusterf**k

If anything I would come closer to beliving we landed a lot more often than they admited but I dont think thats true either.

Originally posted by lordfinesse
ACCEPT IT, THEY LANDED.
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I've *never* doubted it lordfinesse - I sat though those landings (at age 18 and beyond) - as History was being made (I was working and even took my annual leave allocation to ensure I didn't miss out on those moments.

I'm prepared, however, to accept that *some* of the photo's that were released later *might* have been staged somewhere *other* than the Moon, to add dramatic impact to them - any thoughts on *that* people??

Yes Genya, the possibility of those "other" lunar images being fabricated crossed my mind especially while looking at them. Those images are pretty widespread I doubt the origin could ever be traced. Maybe photo editing specialists have already disproven those photos. I havent gone hunting for that yet. We all remember what Buzz Aldrin did to that journalist asking him about the lunar landings being faked. I don't think anyone has been brave to stand up to him and have him go through a series of lunar photos. While questioning him on them, he'd sock you in the nose. Which he has ever right to, I was around when the landings took place but its disrespect to bring up all those "supposed" evidence on the lunar landing being faked when its been disproven time and time again. Probably those generation x'ers. bad gen x bad.

I heard that the ground control would switch the broadcast (?) to another channel when the astronauts would encounter something strange on the moon. I think the escape feed would be some sort of stage on the earth. Sounds a bit bogus when I try and explain it though.

Originally posted by Requiem
I heard that the ground control would switch the broadcast (?) to another channel when the astronauts would encounter something strange on the moon. I think the escape feed would be some sort of stage on the earth. Sounds a bit bogus when I try and explain it though.

yeah, it does...

, he'd sock you in the nose. Which he has ever right to, I was around when the landings took place but its disrespect to bring up all those "supposed" evidence on the lunar landing being faked

ya..i wouldnt blame him either if he socked me for questioning him about{i would hit him back though}..but as far as disrespect goes...i couldnt give a damn about that..when it comes to finding the truth..i will ask any questions i feel like....

Originally posted by lordfinesse
the possibility of those "other" lunar images being fabricated crossed my mind especially while looking at them..... Probably those generation x'ers. bad gen x bad.

Hi lordfinesse!!

Well, first, *welcome* to ATS - this board rocks!!

It's nice to know that there are some "old timers" here to say "how it was": the excitemnt of being in a genration that witnessed Mercury, Gemini and Apollo within a decade was truly awesome... Whilst not "dissing" youth, I really think *we* had the "halcyon days" when things *happened* in Space Exploration (I should, perhaps, explain that I was born in 1950 and remember Sputnik 1 onwards quite clearly... and have been an "amateur" astronomer for about the same length of time).

So, I don't doubt we went to the Moon - my only regret is that - politically - the "public" became disinterested and NASA had to "penny pinch" and cancel missions. By *now*, we *should* have had colonies on the Moon and outposts on Mars.... The "public" are very fickle, me thinks ....

I think the public lost interest because nasa is not doing anything amazing..and when they try.. they mess up most of the time..if we could land on the moon and drive around in rovers over 25 years ago..with all the new technology..why cant we even get HALF of the mars probes to land on mars and actually work??maybe if they were ever successful people would take more interest.. i know i would..

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Originally posted by lordfinesse
I was around when the landings took place but its disrespect to bring up all those "supposed" evidence on the lunar landing being faked when its been disproven time and time again.

Sorry Genya when I said I was around I really meant to type I wasn't around. I suppose was I was to caught up in thinking of what to type next. I was born in 1985, not even close. But thank you yes I do have respect for all demographics of the population despite age, race etc. This all started when I read some post on this board about a guy claiming the lunar landing was faked as if it was no brainer. I had to sign up copy paste my new password and write my first post to inform him, of how grossly misinformed, and misguided he is on that subject. I felt I Had to stand up for our older citizens like yourself Genya and my parents grandparents etc of my family that still charish that moment. When I ask them about what they think of the "faked" theory they dismiss it and never give it a second thought. But its still disrespect to our human accomplishments and history to excercise the faked lunar landing theory and praise it like this one perons was. Now thats all out of the way. *sigh* thank you for your greeting and noticing I was new, Genya. Hopefully I'll see you around

When I ask them about what they think of the "faked" theory they dismiss it and never give it a second thought.

yeah ..its these kind of poeple who never give things "a second thought" that worry me the most...you think because people wont give things a second thought ..that means that it is automaticly real???.Alot of poeple saw JFK get shot and never gave it a second thought that it was anybody but oswald involved..then people started digging..and look at all they have found.The problem with the moon landing is that "it did good for the nation"..so people involved maybe would be less likely to come out and speak the truth such as in the case involving JFK{which was not good for the country IMO}...and its hard to goto space and look around yourself to see any evidence so anything involving this case is only hearsay anyway....

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I was a kid about 8 or 9 when the Americans landed on the moon and remember when they touched down, I watched/ listened to what was being broadcast and as much as I could about it.

I do not believe that they faked these landings but I am firm in my belief that they have been going back and landing a lot more frequently than they (and by “they” I mean governments) and quite possibly setting up liveable habitats for the elite as a staging platform for further exploration of “our” galaxy as for mars landings the jury’s still out

I was a kid about 8 or 9 when the Americans landed on the moon and remember when they touched down, I watched/ listened to what was being broadcast and as much as I could about it.

I was 9. It was a wonderful exciting time I thought we would be living on the moon and maybe mars by now. With the money we give to countries that hate us and sticking our noses into there tribal warfare we could have been there

Just my two cents

With the money we give to countries that hate us and sticking our noses into there tribal warfare we could have been there

i agree

I think the Moon Landing was faked and all the Money went into creating more Millitary Weapons and Elite Resorts for the dorks we refer to as our Leaders!

they are doing a good job of keeping JFK and 911 a secret. why not a moon landing?
what about the van allen belt? it fried the russian cosmonauts, why would americans be immune?
when i see neil armstrong staring into the sun with his gold visor up, i think, wow, there's a guy with great retinas! anybody else would have been blinded.
i like the argument of, good and noble(the proof) vs. technical data(the stuff that only fools fall for).

Why is a thread on the moon landing that apparently has nothing to do with aliens and UFOs in this section?

Anyway, I'm sure the U.S. landed on the moon. Mainly because I'm sure we had at least 22 years of time to study and reverse engineer the crashed Roswell craft.

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