VT Shooter, Some questions, page 1
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 10:30 AM by KilgoreTrout
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A bit more info on the 'Ismail Ax' thing - all very interesting but only wets the appetite more - no satisfying conclusion, but it gives a different search point for further info.


reply posted on 20-4-2007 @ 06:56 PM by Pilot
Check out this video: www.brasschecktv.com...

and this bit: www.rense.com...

I get suspicious anytime there is something on this order dominating the news.
I'm not saying he was a mind-controlled cipher, but hey, I still haven't heard from any witnesses how this went down. How did he kill so many people with 2 handguns??

[edit on 20-4-2007 by Pilot]


reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 03:37 AM by CSRules
Originally posted by prsbuff
Some more questions:

1. Are there any survivors in that room that they can question? if none, then there is a conspiracy behind it.
There is no conspiracy here!!!!

2. Why was the shooter was able to shoot 32 victims without any one of them stop him as the first shot happen. If few, if not all, tried to jump on this guy, there is that possibility of less victims.
The reason no one tried to stop him is GOVT schools. They teach that all violence is wrong. If just one of those students was allowed to carry a concealed weapon on campus, many deaths could have been avoided. Would they all have been avoided, HELL NO!, but after the first shot was fored some student/pofessor with a handgun and a concel carry permit, could have blown his ASS away!!! Let me indoctrinate you people to something...(Seeing as you have been indoctrinating students forever...) There is evil in the world. There is RIGHT and there is WRONG. We as citizens need to have the choice to determine so. If one of the students or professors had a gun, (Authorized by the conceal and carry permit...This SOB would have been stopped early.) Would it have saved all 32 lives...NO! But maybe after the first or second, someone would have blown his PSYCHO ASS AWAY!!! And saved X lives. A gun free zone is nothing more than inviting some PSYCHOPATH to come in. If they know noone is going to shoot back, WHAT IS TO STOP THEM!!! (I'm sure this ASSHOLE, stopped to think that the campus is a gun free zone..."Well GEE i can't do this) This is BS!!! Govt. scholls have done nothing, but to teach us to cower and hide. Why didn't anyone charge this asshole?!?! Your gonna die anyway (Being lined up and shot) Why not charge him and take your chances?!?! Personally I'd rather go out, knowing I took a chance and stood up and stopped this WHACKO, than cowering in a corner. The only one who did do anything was a proffesor who survived the HOULOCAST(SP) HE GAVE HIS LIFE FOR HIS STUDENTS TO ESCAPE!!!
I feel pity for the rest!!! This man has been through HELL and survived, but he is the only one willing to take a stand!! Those who didn't, dead or alive...SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES! (If I piss anyone off, goto HELL! THE REST WERE COWARDS! You can't tell me this WACKO did not stop to reload! Think of the BRAVE people on FLIGHT 93...Instead of letting the terrorists reach their target, they took matters into their own hands. They knew they were going to DIE either way, YET THEY FOUND THE COURAGE TO STAND UP AND FIGHT!!! Our Govt. schools spend billions of dollars to teach us to surrender. Yet these people rose above this, IMAGINE IF ONE OR TWO ROSE ABOVE THIS AT VIRGINIA TECH?? How many less lives would have been taken, by this WACKO!!!

What I'm trying to say people is the GOVT. wants us to believe they can protect EVERYONE. Guess what??? GOVT PROTECTION COMES AFTER THE FACT!! What i really want to know....WHO IS THERE TO PROTECT US, UNTIL THE GOVT GETS THERE?!?!?

The 2nd amendment is to PROTECT US FROM GOVT TYRANNY!!! While they can't seem to get rid of it directly, they use indirect means to get there. Limit what we can do as a free society. LIMIT THE ABILITY TO DEFEND OURSELVES!!!

This is a slippery slope. Last I checked..."WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE RULERS OF THIS GOVT. Maybe it is time WE SHOW THEM WHO IS BOSS!!!!


reply posted on 19-5-2007 @ 12:35 AM by Imperium Americana
I will answer these the best I can:

Originally posted by starviego
1) Witnesses said the shooting started at 9:30am, yet it didn't end until 9:45am. Why didn't the police confront him earlier? Police were right next door in the administration building having a conference with the college president. Is it true police were on a stand-down order, as PrisonPlanet.com reported?


No they were not in a "stand down mode" they, incorrectly assumed the boyfriend of the girl killed in AJ to be the perp. They had him pulled over on I-81 during the shooting

2) How could an inexperienced, amateur shooter have conducted such a remarkable feat of marksmanship, scoring 130-odd hits for about 170 rounds fired?

Given that the average engagement range was -20 feet even an average shot could hit close to center mass. Even then most of hit shots were not automatic kills. Many of the victims bleed to death in the rooms.

3) Was he on any medication? What do his psychiatric medical records say? (In almost all cases of the juvenile rampage rage shooter, they have a shrink but he is NEVER interviewed)

His records say quite a bit. He was found to be a threat only to himself...why you ask? Because he never revealed any desire to harm anyone. In fact he was given out-patient care (i.e. therapy) because he did not even state that he was going to harm himself.
You will not hear of an interview of the Psychologist since there is this little thing called
HIPAA. Even dead it would take a court order to open those records. And since he is dead, unless there is a suit against VT, do not expect to see that cracked for some time.

4) What was the motive?
Rage...pure rage. He was going to kill himself and he was going to make those who forced his hand pay for their sins.

5) How many gun wounds did the dead gunman receive? Do the surviving witnesses ID the gunman as Cho?

Best count I heard was ONE...since it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. You tend not to fire twice with a wound like that...know what I mean.

6) Was Cho military or ROTC? What about the photo that shows Cho and a buddy in USMC cami uniforms?

The photo is still a bit murky best thought on that are: 1. not him or 2. a pic taken with some friends. But he was not ROTC or Military.

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As a longtime student of the random-rage(non-specific victim) school shooting phenomenom, I can tell you that most of them are covert black ops, using mind-controlled zombies to perpetrate these outrages. A second shooter is almost always present also, whose participation is shielded by the police.



LOL really! First it was not random rage. It was a well thought out highly specific attack on that which Cho thought to be intolerable. Want proof see his press kit. That is not a "snap" random act.

As far as the rest...how do you know? What you read some web site or read a book by some nutter who has not received any formal psychological training. What second shooter!!!!!!! There was no second shooter. There was one...Cho. A very sick individual who, dare I say it, I feel very sorry for.
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